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April 5, 2008

Ken P. D. Snyde-Cast #37: Giving Until It Hurts

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Adult Swim’s Dana Snyder and FRED’s Ken Plume set out to have a literate conversation between two pals, but inevitably devolve into a verbal, and funny, free-for-all full of bickering, infighting, and the special kind of male bonding that comes from conflict expressed through the podcast medium.

Actor/comedian/raconteur Dana Snyder, you’re certainly aware, is Aqua Teen Hunger Force’s Master Shake, Squidbillies‘ Granny, Minoriteam’s Dr. Wang, and The Venture Bros.‘ Alchemist. Available for weddings and bar mitzvahs (bat availability pending), you can keep tabs on him via his website, www.eyeofthesnyder.com.

Ken Plume is the editor-in-chief here at FRED. He is a friend of Dana’s, as well as his arch-nemesis.

VISIT THE SNYDECAST EXPERIENCE

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KEN P.D. SNYDECAST #37: Giving Until It Hurts – Ken & Dana celebrate the first negative review of their award-winning podcast, determine that neither of them care to listen to their own podcast past the initial pain of the record, humor Dana’s insanity, dive back into the ol’ mailbag for an incredible discovery, and arrive at an emotional crossroads.

[CONTENT WARNING]: This podcast may contain some foul language and horribly off-color jokes. Don’t say we didn’t warn you.

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April 4, 2008

Weekend Shopping Guide 4/4/08: Close Encounters

Filed under: Shopping Guides — UncaScroogeMcD @ 1:03 am

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The weekend’s here. You’ve just been paid, and it’s burning a hole in your pocket. What’s a pop culture geek to do? In hopes of steering you in the right direction to blow some of that hard-earned cash, it’s time for the Quick Stop Weekend Shopping Guide – your spotlight on the things you didn’t even know you wanted…

Unless you’re a comedy insider, you probably don’t know the name Del Close. However, if you’ve seen Saturday Night Live, or SCTV, or Upright Citizens Brigade, or Mr. Show, or The Colbert Report – any show, really, that’s pulled from the ranks of the improv scene – then you’ve felt the importance of the man who made the teaching of improvisation an artform. He was also a mercurial genius who could alienate and ingratiate at the same time, and whose life was more mythic than average. Author Kim “Howard” Johnson has done a wonderful job of capturing lightning in a bottle with The Funniest One In The Room: The Lives and Legends Of Del Close (Chicago Review Press, $24.95 SRP), a fascinating portrait of a legend whose legacy lives on, and whose name deserves to be known.

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I’ve waited years for Terry Jones’ Medieval Lives (BBC, Not Rated, DVD-$29.98 SRP) to make its way to DVD. I’ve long been a fan of the Python’s explorations into history, going all the way back to his deciphering of the true satirical nature of Chaucer’s Canterbury “Knight’s Tale” in his book Chaucer’s Knight. Medieval Knights deconstructs the misconceptions that we have about the lives of Medieval archetypes in a quick-witted and engagingly fascinating way that I’ve come to expect from Jones. The 2-disc set also features a bonus documentary – Gladiators: The Brutal Truth.

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It’s no easy task to try and bring Stephen Sondheim’s Sweeney Todd (Dreamworks, Rated R, DVD-$34.99 SRP) to the screen, but leave it to Tim Burton to attempt to bring the macabre musical to celluloid life – and he largely succeeds. No one’s going to call the story of the demon barber of Fleet Street a feel good flick, and Burton, to his credit, doesn’t try to soften its rather sharp edges… Even if that means that the blood flows fast and furious. The 2-disc set features quite a few making-of and behind-the-scenes featurettes, interviews, and more.

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I certainly hope you’ve been picking up DC’s deluxe hardcover collections of Jack Kirby’s Fourth World run in the appropriately titled Jack Kirby’s Fourth World Omnibus (DC Comics, $49.99 SRP). The fourth and final collection has just been releases, wrapping up Kirby’s original 70’s run as well as including the Hunger Dogs graphic novel, the final chapter of his epic saga. The volume also contains an introduction from Paul Levitz, an afterword from Mark Evanier, and Who’s Who entries.

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If the live action scatological modernization of Alvin, Simon, & Theodore aren’t your cup of tea, you can rock it old school with the new re-release of their first big screen outing, The Chipmunk Adventure (Paramount, Rated G, DVD-$16.99 SRP). The new edition contains a bonus disc of the film’s soundtrack (ay yi yi!). Also available on the same day is Alvin & The Chipmunks Go To The Movies: Funny, We Shrunk The Adults (Paramount, Not Rated, DVD-$ SRP), which collects a trio of latter-day episodes from their 80’s TV run.

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Another staple of my 80’s Nick At Nite viewing has hit DVD in the form of Father Knows Best: Season One (Shout! Factory, Not Rated, DVD-$34.99 SRP). The 4-disc set features all 26 episodes starring Robert Young as the very epitome of the 50’s TV family man. Bonus features include new cast interviews, rare home movies and behind-the-scenes color footage, a special episode created by the US government, and the pilot episode of Robert Young’s 1960 follow-up series Window On Main Street.

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It’s never easy for an iconic TV star to find another vehicle after a long-running success, and it looked like Ted Danson would be lost down that rabbit hole. Then came Becker (Paramount, Not Rated, DVD-$36.98 SRP), which found Danson playing ornery doctor John Becker, who runs a small medical practice in the Bronx. While nowhere near the quality of Cheers, it still manages to be a fun, amiable little sitcom. The 3-disc set features all 22 first season episodes.

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Celebrate Bette Davis’s 100th birthday with the 3rd volume of Warner Bros.’ Bette Davis Collection (Warner Bros., Not Rated, DVD-$59.98 SRP). This 6-disc set is really diving deep into the vaults to pull out some rarely seen titles – Deception, Watch On The Rhine, In This Our Life, The Great Lie, All This, And Heaven Too, and The Old Maid. All of the films are remastered, and bonus features include audio commentaries, cartoons, featurettes, shorts, newsreels, trailers, and more.

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Continue your celebrations with Fox’s own Bette Davis Collection (Fox, Not Rated, DVD-$49.98 SRP), which sports five flicks from her long career in newly remastered form. Those five films are All About Eve, Phone Call From A Stranger, The Virgin Queen, Hush… Hush Sweet Charlotte, and The Nanny. Bonus features include audio commentaries, featurettes, Fox Movietone features, TV spots, trailers, and more.

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Relive the good ol’ days of fun comic books with Showcase Presents: Booster Gold (DC Comics, $16.99 SRP), which collects the entire run Dan Jurgens’ series featuring the 25th century conman-cum-20th century hero in all of his glory. Perfect reading for those rainy April days.

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By the time the eight season of That 70’s Show (Fox, Not Rated, DVD-$49.98 SRP) rolled around, it was clear that the show was limping toward its finish. Anchor Topher grace had left at the end of the previous season, and the show foundered without its everyman center, treading water with slapstick until the end. The 4-disc set features all 22 episodes, audio commentaries, featurettes, and episode promos.

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By the time we get to the 8th season of Murder She Wrote (Universal, Not Rated, DVD-$49.98 SRP), Jessica Fletcher has left a trail of death stretching from Cabot Cove to Antarctica. The sleuthing novelist remains the textbook case for a Jekyll & Hyde persona, often pinning her crimes on innocents and effectively allaying any suspicions that might come her way by sheer dint of being portrayed by Angela Lansbury. Very clever, Ms. Fletcher. The 5-disc box set contains all 22 episodes.

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Always the cream of the crop, the 2-disc David Attenborough Wildlife Specials (BBC, Not Rated, DVD-$29.98 SRP) collects 6 of the famed documentarian’s nature programs, featuring the polar bear, the crocodile, the leopard, the eagle, the humpback whale, and the wolf. The set also features the bonus documentaries Great Natural Wonders Of The World and Greatest Wildlife Show On Earth.

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If that isn’t enough nature to ensure a packed viewing schedule for your personal Earth Day celebration, then be sure to pick up The BBC Natural History Collection (BBC, Not Rated, DVD-$199.98 SRP), which collects the box sets for Planet Earth, Blue Planet, The Life Of Birds, and The Life Of Mammals into one honkin’ uber-box.

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Eventually, we’ll have every TV appearance ever made by a Beatle available on DVD. Mark my words. The latest release is John, Paul, Tom, & Ringo: The Tomorrow Show with Tom Snyder (Shout! Factory, Not Rated, DVD-$24.99 SRP). As the title implies, the 2-disc set features 3 full episodes from Snyder’s Tomorrow Show featuring John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and Ringo Starr. Unfortunately, no George.

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And speaking of The Beatles, also worth checking out is “We’re Going To See The Beatles!”: An Oral History Of Beatlemania Told By The Fans Who Were There (Santa Monica Press, $16.95 SRP). As the title makes crystal clear, it’s an inside view from the screaming sidelines of the Fab Four’s cultural revolution.

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I could care a tinker’s whit for sports, but Bull Durham (MGM/UA, Rated R, DVD-$14.98 SRP) is one of that select group of sports flicks that I actually enjoy. Even after 20 years – which this new special edition celebrates – the film still holds up. Bonus materials include a pair of audio commentaries, a quartet of retrospective featurettes, and a Kevin Costner profile.

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Meloni and Hargitay are on the case in the 6th season of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (Universal, Not Rated., DVD-$59.98 SRP), which continues to be the L&O with the most awkward subject matter to watch. The 5-disc box set features all 23 episodes, plus the cast’s special appearance on – I kid you not – Sesame Street.

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You can’t help but thinking – as you watch David Milch’s truncated, cancelled, and boring John From Cincinnati (HBO, Not Rated, DVD-$59.98 SRP) – “They cancelled Deadwood for this?” Now you can ponder that question with the 3-disc set collecting the entirety of its brief run. Maybe you’ll care about mysterious John… or surfing… or something. Bonus features include a pair of audio commentaries and a behind-the-scenes featurette.

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As jaded as I’ve become in recent years, it takes an awful lot of coolness for a collectible to wow me anymore. Almost an inordinate amount of coolness, really. The Sideshow Collectibles Premium Format Figure of the Fantastic Four’s The Thing ($324.99 SRP) reaches that high level of coolness with a fair amount of coolness to spare. Standing over 20″ tall and in full on “clobberin’ time” pose, he’s a dynamic representation of one of the most iconic characters ever to grace the comics page. As always, the Sideshow exclusive edition is the way to go, as it contains an extra head with a closed-mouth sculpt. With en edition size of only 750, get this one while you can (or risk the gouging of the aftermarket).

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So there you have it… my humble suggestions for what to watch, listen to, play with, or waste money on this coming weekend. See ya next week…

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Win THERE WILL BE BLOOD on DVD!

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We’re giving away, in conjunction with Paramount Home Video, five (5) copies of THERE WILL BE BLOOD on DVD.

On April 8th, Paramount Home Entertainment will release the critically acclaimed, Academy Award nominated masterpiece THERE WILL BE BLOOD on DVD. Directed and adapted for the screen by critical darling Paul Thomas Anderson, the film has not only been named by more than 200 critics as one of the top 10 films of 2007, but has also garnered eight Academy Award nominations (including Best Motion Picture of the Year). Starring Academy Award, Golden Globe, and SAG Award winner Daniel Day-Lewis, THERE WILL BE BLOOD tells the brutal tale of Daniel Plainview’s struggle to become the greatest oilman of his time and his ruthless ways of getting there. Paul Thomas Anderson’s latest film is a compelling look at the savage roots of American capitalism and religion, as well as a personal tale of one man’s willingness to do whatever it takes to come out on top. The two-disc DVD delves deeply into the historical context of the film and the filmmaking process itself. Get out your huge straw, stretch it acrossssss the room, and prepare to drink milkshakes everywhere as THERE WILL BE BLOOD: 2-DISC COLLECTOR’S EDITION comes to DVD.

Contest ends at 11:59pm EST on Tuesday, April 8th.

CLOSED! THANKS FOR ENTERING!

Official Rules

No member of Quick Stop Entertainment or their immediate families may enter.

No Purchase necessary to win.

Must be 18 years of age or older to enter.

One entry per day, per person.

All submitted entries must be received by 11:59pm EST on Friday, April 11th.

The winner must allow 4-6 weeks after notification of win to receive the product.

Quick Stop Thingamabobs: 4/4/2008

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The web. It’s a big place, full of plenty of distractions — some funny, some informative, some ludicrous, some disturbing, some inane, some profound. Each and every weekday, we present links to a few of our favorite finds…

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April 3, 2008

Win THE BEATLES on THE TOMORROW SHOW on DVD!

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We’re giving away, in conjunction with Shout! Factory, a copy of JOHN, PAUL, TOM & RINGO: THE TOMORROW SHOW WITH TOM SNYDER on DVD.

Mrs. Doubtfire is in the house! Everyone’s favorite gender-bending nanny is back for more heartwarming hilarity as Fox Home Entertainment pulls off the wig and lets out the seams to unveil even more fun with the all-new MRS DOUBTFIRE Behind-The-Seams Special Edition two-disc DVD release. Starring the unparalleled Robin Williams in his hysterical cross-dressing, Golden Globe-winning performance as the lovable British nanny, MRS. DOUBTFIRE became an instant blockbuster.

Contest ends at 11:59pm EST on Thursday, April 10th.

CLOSED! THANKS FOR ENTERING!

Official Rules

No member of Quick Stop Entertainment or their immediate families may enter.

No Purchase necessary to win.

Must be 18 years of age or older to enter.

One entry per day, per person.

All submitted entries must be received by 11:59pm EST on Thursday, April 10th.

The winner must allow 4-6 weeks after notification of win to receive the product.

Quick Stop Thingamabobs: 4/3/2008

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The web. It’s a big place, full of plenty of distractions — some funny, some informative, some ludicrous, some disturbing, some inane, some profound. Each and every weekday, we present links to a few of our favorite finds…

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April 2, 2008

Quick Stop Thingamabobs: 4/2/2008

Filed under: Thingamabobs — UncaScroogeMcD @ 12:01 am

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The web. It’s a big place, full of plenty of distractions — some funny, some informative, some ludicrous, some disturbing, some inane, some profound. Each and every weekday, we present links to a few of our favorite finds…

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  • Willard Scott as the very first burger clown… (Thingamabob)

April 1, 2008

Cabin Fever #19: Homecoming

Filed under: Cabin Fever — UncaScroogeMcD @ 9:39 pm

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cabin.jpgOh no! Just when you thought it was safe to hang out at the Quick Stop…

Cabin Fever (hosted by the twisted souls Brian Fitzpatrick and Aaron Poole) is the result of having too much time on your hands and access to your local community radio station.

Over the course of an hour, they manage to trawl the depths of good taste, plus throw some music in. How much more could you want from a podcast?… Quality? Oh… we didn’t think of that.

Enjoy! And we hope our cross Atlantic friends can understand the Irish accent 😉

Hugs and Kisses,
Aaron P. + Rev. Fitzy

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CABIN FEVER #19: Homecoming – Aaron returns to Irish shores to find The Rev huddled in a corner of the studio, crying and unwashed. After a few hours of snuggling and reassurances that he’ll never leave again, the two guys get down to the regular business of spouting nonsense. They discuss the plight of atomic suicidal deer and how they pertain to M. Night Shyamalan’s latest effort, A’Tuin the tortoise’s 40-a-day smoking habit, vaginal appendix extraction, suicide robots, and another thrilling installment of “You Put What Where?!” There’s also some good music from Jayk, Marner Brown and Friday Night Lights.

[CONTENT WARNING]: Explicit contents! We say every naughty word you can think of. You have been warned!

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Win MRS. DOUBTFIRE on DVD!

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We’re giving away, in conjunction with Fox Home Video, three (3) copies of MRS. DOUBTFIRE on DVD.

Mrs. Doubtfire is in the house! Everyone’s favorite gender-bending nanny is back for more heartwarming hilarity as Fox Home Entertainment pulls off the wig and lets out the seams to unveil even more fun with the all-new MRS DOUBTFIRE Behind-The-Seams Special Edition two-disc DVD release. Starring the unparalleled Robin Williams in his hysterical cross-dressing, Golden Globe-winning performance as the lovable British nanny, MRS. DOUBTFIRE became an instant blockbuster.

Contest ends at 11:59pm EST on Tuesday, April 8th.

CLOSED! THANKS FOR ENTERING!

Official Rules

No member of Quick Stop Entertainment or their immediate families may enter.

No Purchase necessary to win.

Must be 18 years of age or older to enter.

One entry per day, per person.

All submitted entries must be received by 11:59pm EST on Tuesday, April 8th.

The winner must allow 4-6 weeks after notification of win to receive the product.

Quick Stop Thingamabobs: 4/1/2008

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The web. It’s a big place, full of plenty of distractions — some funny, some informative, some ludicrous, some disturbing, some inane, some profound. Each and every weekday, we present links to a few of our favorite finds…

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March 31, 2008

TV Or Not TV: 3/31 – 4/6

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Welcome back TV viewers. We find ourselves here again; same bat-time, same bat-channel.

This week is one of the bleakest yet, but it also represents the light at the end of the tunnel for those of us suffering through the after effects of the WGA strike. I’d love to try to lie to you but Tuesday and Wednesday are not going to be very fun if you aren’t in to American Idol. If you don’t like Survivor or sitcoms then Thursday isn’t going to be very exciting either. I also have to say that you can pretty much write off the weekend for being able to watch much of anything very good. Fans of LOST also get to let out a collective groan because they still have another four weeks to wait for a new episode.

I did, however, say something about a light at the end of the tunnel. That tiny glimmer of hope comes from the fact that we are starting to see many shows return with new episodes. This is going to be a trend that we see happen every week of the month, with new shows being in full effect for May. It’s kind of like winter ending all over again isn’t it?

The biggest event this week, which is noted below, is that Battlestar Galactica is returning on the SCIFI channel. This is a mixed bag of good news/bad news because it is the show’s final season; however it doesn’t really matter because one should just be happy to get any bit of a show that has this much quality and caliber. The writing on this show is amazing, the acting is great, and they ended last season on one heck of a cliff hanger. I would be more than willing to bet that Friday will give the SCIFI channel some of their biggest ratings ever, and I predict they will definitely deserve them. In other words, don’t call me Friday night because I’ll be watching BSG and the ringer will be turned off.

So let’s all let out a collective sigh of relief because April is upon us and we’ll soon be knee deep in new shows.

Now, on with the countdown.

MONDAY

FOX ““ 9:00 PM: Tonight on New Amsterdam a homicide victim looks like one of the 63 kids that John has fathered in his 400 years of life. With that many kids what are the odds that someone in New York isn’t related to him?

NBC ““ 10:00 PM: Last week on Medium we saw one of the creepiest scenarios that Alison has had to deal with yet, and the perpetrator for once is a woman. This week she goes head-to-head with this serious sociopath, and I’m hoping for a serious cat fight.

TUESDAY

FOX ““ 8:00 PM: Tonight on American Idol the contestants sing the songs of Dolly Parton and she’ll be on hand to coach them. I can’t wait to hear Dave Cook sing 9 to 5. I bet you’re waiting for me to say, “April Fools!” aren’t you? Sorry.

FOX ““ 9:00 PM: Fifteen new people sign up for the torture and honor of trying to become the Executive Chef at a Gordon Ramsey’s new restaurant in the latest installment of Hell’s Kitchen. This show is pure sadomasochism for those too scared to actually put on a ball gag.

WEDNESDAY

FOX ““ 9:00 PM: An event I’m sure you’ve all been dying to see on American Idol; Dolly Parton SINGS! Tune in for 42 minutes of pain and watch another young hopeful’s dream get shattered.

HIST ““ 9:00 PM: I think the producers of MonsterQuest are stuck in a rut. Last week it was the Skunk Ape, this week they look at Josef Stalin’s attempts at breeding man and ape. Next week they’ll try to track down the elusive Grape Ape.

THURSDAY

NBC ““ 8:00 PM: The good news is that My Name is Earl is back and it’s a full hour. The bad news is that stunt casting is in full effect with Paris Hilton playing herself. If it were two days earlier I would be hoping this was an April Fool’s joke.

ABC ““ 8:00 PM: I hope you didn’t blink because the season finale of Miss/Guided is already here. You start to like a new show and just like Keyser Souze… poof… it’s gone.

NBC ““ 9:00 ““ 11:00 PM: After Earl why not take in four back to back episodes of The Office?

FRIDAY

CBS ““ 8:00 PM: Ghost Whisperer is back from the afterlife of the WGA Strike tonight. What can I say? At least it’s not a repeat or reality TV.

SCIFI ““ 9:00 AM: Because I missed mentioning it last week I’m going to bring up both Battlestar Galactica: Revealed and Battlestar Galactica: The Phenomenon for this lovely Friday morning. The former is hosted by Executive Producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick to get us caught up on all the important things that happened in the previous seasons. The latter is a collection of celebrities talking about the impact the new Galactica has had. These are all a great primer for…

SCIFI ““ 10:00 PM: Finally, the return of Battlestar Galactica! “˜Nuff said?

SATURDAY

FOXREAL ““ 12:00 PM: One of the funniest and cruelest reality shows that FOX ever put out was My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiancé. Today FOX REALITY is airing back to back episodes of the shows entire run. It is mean, it is cruel and it is FABULOUS! Drink it in.

SCIFI ““ 3:00 PM: Relive the terror of 10.5 and 10.5: Apocalypse. No, the terror isn’t from the earthquakes; it’s from the writing, the acting, and Beau Bridges eyebrows!

ABC ““ 8:00 PM: Tune in for one of the two blandest adaptations of JK Rowling’s books with Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone. I’ve got a soft spot for the books so if you have no idea what a Muggle is than tune in, won’t you?

SUNDAY

TNT”“ 12:30 PM: It’s Lord of the Rings Sunday on TNT as all three films in the trilogy are shown back-to-back-to-back. This should be TNT’s highest ratings score for males 18 to 35… living in their parents basements.

ABC ““ 8:00 PM: Tonight the Extreme Makeover: Home Edition team goes all the way to Billings, Montana to build a new home for a family living in a refurbished chicken coop. I’m dying to see what a refurbished chicken coop looks like. I bet it’s still better than most New York apartments.

FOX ““ 9:00 PM: I’m very hesitant to recommend Family Guy tonight, but if you didn’t catch their Star Wars special episode than tonight is your second chance to see it. It will elicit at least a few laughs.

Will Wilkins didn’t know what the frak to put here this week.

Trailer Park: Kids In The Hall 2008 Tour NEWSFLASH

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By Christopher Stipp

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First things first: The Kids In The Hall are on tour this Spring. Head on over to their MySpace page to get a list of dates and start planning.

That said, there’s not much that grabs my attention these days.

When I first started out doing this I used to be enamored by all sorts of press releases announcing marginal projects. I was new, I didn’t know better and I had yet to learn the nuances and lengths some PR companies will go to make you believe the hype. After years of experience and after just as long a time to figure out that not everyone is who they say they are you honestly become a little jaded. You can’t find it in your heart to get excited by projects because you’re always being pitched this thing which will “be the hottest thing this year” or this movie because “it’s garnering lots of positive buzz.”

That’s when a little e-mail announcing the latest Kids In The Hall tour landed in one of my random in-boxes set me off like an ape that smells a pile of bananas nearby.

I couldn’t wait to jump on the phone to track down those in charge of this latest road show to find out how I could be of some service. It’s really not hard to see why I would react like this when you consider the cultural and professional contributions the KITH has made to sketch comedy and how there hasn’t been a troupe since that can match the level of quality for the five seasons they were on television. They balanced the base with the intelligent, the socially aware with sketches like The Power Of My Cock; the vacillations between these two within any given episode was what still remains as testament to the quality of writing. It’s like every episode was a mix tape and they had the wherewithal to know how to lead it off, what belonged in the middle and how to end things proper.

I would be lying if I said that for the five seasons these guys were on television that I was right there for every episode. It wasn’t until 1991 when I taped a KITH episode for a friend, on VHS no less (man, I feel old), and a sketch called “One Of These Five Men…” was unlike anything I had seen as a young man. I immediately connected with the troupe’s sensibilities and I “got” their sense of humor and what they thought was funny. Too many superlatives could fill this space but I was a fan. I could go on and on about stories related to what would be the basis and genesis for my writing career but I’ll leave it be at that I have seen two of the Kids In The Hall live shows and they’re every bit as good as the show. If you get a chance you could buy a copy of the very great Same Guys, New Dresses show or even their Tour Of Duty show to get a feel for how they translate their sketch comedy for the stage.

And, for those who want the latest taste in what to expect when they roll into a town near you click below to watch a sample of a Q&A when Scott Thompson and company explain their very macabre, but very amusing, connection to Kurt Cobain.

Comics in Context #220: The King of the Silver Age

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cic2008-03-25.jpgNow, in my continuing commentary on Mark Evanier’s Kirby: King of Comics, published by Harry N. Abrams, I arrive at the peak of Jack Kirby’s career: the 1960s, in the Silver Age of Comics, when Kirby collaborated with Stan Lee in creating the Fantastic Four and so many of the other classic characters of the Marvel Universe. As Mark Evanier reminds us in this book, Lee and Kirby launched a “revolution” in heroic fantasy comics with Fantastic Four #1, which he rightly says “changed the rules” more than any comic book since Action Comics #1, in which the superhero genre was born (Evanier, Kirby: King of Comics, p. 122). Fantastic Four #1 marked a true renaissance of this genre, which has not only thrived ever since in comics, but found new popularity in film and television.

But this is also the period in Kirby’s career that stirs the most controversy. As Evanier explains, Marvel’s editor and principal writer, Stan Lee, collaborated with Kirby and other artists in what was then an unusual way. Burdened with the duty to write so many comics, Lee devised the “Marvel method” to draw upon the considerable talents of artists like Kirby and Steve Ditko to create story ideas. Typically, Lee and Kirby would hold a conference to devise the basic plot of a story, then Kirby would draw the story, elaborating upon and adding to that plot, and then Lee would script the dialogue and captions.

But what actually happened during those plot conferences? What elements of the plots were Lee’s and which were Kirby’s? Which man first conceived of which of the scores of characters who emerged at Marvel during this amazing period of creativity?

In his book Mark Evanier carefully attempts to be fair to both Lee and Kirby in treading through this mine field. At one point Evanier sagely assets that “Among those who worked around them at the time, there was a unanimous view: that Fantastic Four was created by Stan and Jack. No further division of credit seemed appropriate. Not on that, nor on all the wonderment to come” (Evanier, p. 122). That strikes me as correct. It is the combination of Lee and Kirby’s individual talents, the synthesis of the words and the pictures, that made these characters and series so successful, both commercially and creatively. We have seen plenty of work that Stan Lee has done with other artists, and entire series that Jack Kirby both wrote and drew himself. It’s hard for me to imagine that a Fantastic Four by either man without the other could have achieved the heights they reached in that series together.

Yet in the 1960s and 1970s Kirby’s role in co-plotting–and in some cases, entirely plotting–his collaborations with Stan Lee was known to very few. (As a Marvel reader during those years, I was certainly unaware of it.) Kirby understandably felt unjustly deprived of both his rightful credit for co-creating a stable of such commercially valuable characters and the financial rewards that should in a more just world have been his.

So the question of who did what did become an issue. As Evanier recounts, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby each claimed to be the one who first came up with the idea for the Incredible Hulk. Lee asserted that he originated the idea of doing a series about the Norse god Thor as a superhero; Kirby contended that it was his own idea. Lee says he first conceived of the X-Men; Kirby contended that the credit belonged to him instead. And so it goes. Lee and Kirby each had notoriously bad memories, and they were trying to remember who came up with which idea decades ago.

And there are no witnesses and no physical evidence to settle the disputes. Nobody made records of the plotting sessions at the time. That suggests that, at the time, nobody thought it was important to do so. After all, back then there was little money in comics and no prestige, and no one could have anticipated that Marvel would grow into a multimillion dollar media empire.

Reading this section of Evanier’s book set me wondering about many aspects of this controversy. Is it possible that in the early 1960s not even Kirby or Ditko fretted about getting more credit or compensation for their work with Lee? Evanier states that it was “later” that Kirby and Ditko would claim that Lee contributed little or nothing to the plots. “Since he received the total writing fee and (usually) the total writing credit, that would be a sore point in years to come” (Evanier, p. 112).

Did Kirby, Ditko and the other artists ever confront Lee about this? If they did, how did he respond to their arguments? Or did they just stew in silence, believing that Lee should have known enough to give them money and credit for writing without their asking him? Ditko eventually was billed as sole plotter on his later Amazing Spider-Man work. Why did Ditko get credit when Kirby did not?

What was Stan Lee’s position at the time? Lee has always praised Kirby and Ditko as artists, and certainly in recent years he has acknowledged their plot contributions to his collaborations with them. When Lee and Kirby co-plotted as a story, did Lee assume that Kirby’s fee covered both drawing and co-plotting, and that his own covered co-plotting and scripting? Was Lee somehow blind to the reasons for Kirby’s growing resentment? Or, again, did the subject never come up at the time? Evanier suggests that was the case, writing that “But at the time, everyone was happy just to have work and the “˜Marvel Method,’ as it would come to be known, produced some fine comics” (Evanier, p. 112).

Surely if Lee and Kirby had realized at the time there would have been such a mess over who did what, they would have tape recorded their plotting sessions or had someone transcribe them!

(I know what this is like. Looking back at entries for The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe in the 1980s, I sometimes find myself wondering if I wrote the entry or the series’ editor and creator Mark Gruenwald did. Mark probably kept records, but where are they now? Complicating the problem is the fact that I often revised and expanded entries that Mark had originally written. But how can one tell twenty years later which sections of an entry are Mark’s and which are mine?)

Indeed, no one kept proper records of what one day would be regarded as significant history. Evanier recounts the “industry legend” that Marvel publisher Martin Goodman learned about the sales of Justice League of America from DC’s Jack Liebowitz during a golf game, but Evanier then points out that Liebowitz denied he ever played golf with Goodman.

In any event, Goodman instructed Stan Lee to start a new superhero book to compete with DC’s Justice League, and Fantastic Four #1 was the result.

I was surprised that Evanier claims that the FF discovered their new super-powers on the moon in their first issue (Evanier p. 114), though he has corrected the mistake at his website. Once their spaceship was hit by the unexpectedly intense radiation, they turned back and returned to Earth, where their powers first manifested. Furthermore, it’s a common error that in their origin story the FF were heading to the moon. The story actually states they were journeying “to the stars”; hence, the real-life moon landing in 1969 hasn’t dated the origin story.

The most revolutionary creation among the members of the Fantastic Four was Ben Grimm, the Thing: the monster depicted as semi-tragic hero. I had assumed that Kirby and Ben Grimm’s personalities had much in common, but Evanier quotes Kirby spelling it out: “the Thing is really Jack Kirby. . . .He has my manners, he has my manner of speech, and he thinks the way I do” (Evanier, p. 122).

But wait! Even if Kirby made notes in the borders of the original art pages, suggesting what the Thing was saying, it was Stan Lee who wrote the Thing’s dialogue. As Evanier points out, sometimes Lee followed Kirby’s border notes and other times he didn’t. Certainly Lee reworked Kirby’s suggested dialogue, and as Evanier acknowledges, Lee is superb at depicting characterization through dialogue.

So is the Thing really purely an expression of Jack Kirby? Did Stan Lee think that in scripting the Thing, he was portraying a version of Kirby? Or is it more likely that the Thing we see in the Lee-Kirby FF issues expresses parts of both creators’ personalities?

The biggest puzzle is who came up with the idea for Spider-Man. Evanier reports that Stan Lee claims that, inspired by the pulp vigilante called the Spider, he came up with the idea to do a character called Spider-Man. Kirby claimed that he and Joe Simon had devised the name Spider-Man (or “Spiderman” minus the hyphen), and that he–Kirby–suggested doing a character by that name at Marvel.

Evanier notes that Simon contends that his “Spider-Man” was a different name he had devised for his character the Silver Spider, but that Kirby had nothing to do with its creation. Simon and Kirby had reworked the Silver Spider into the Fly, an orphan boy who used a magic ring to transform into an insect-themed adult superhero, for Archie Comics.

So Kirby began drawing the first Spider-Man story for Marvel, in which the title character was a young boy who used a magic ring to transform into a spider-themed adult superhero. After he’d finished the first few pages, Lee decided to reassign the story to Steve Ditko. Lee has long claimed that Kirby made Spider-Man look too muscular and traditionally heroic. Evanier casts doubt on this story, pointing out that Kirby could easily have redrawn the few pages to make Spider-Man look less muscular, and that, after all, Kirby drew Spider-Man on the cover for Amazing Fantasy #15, his first appearance (Evanier p. 126).

This is true, but I wonder if Stan Lee’s explanation still points to the real reason for the change in artists, even if it wasn’t perfectly phrased. I’ve heard John Romita, Sr. say that when he took over drawing Spider-Man from Steve Ditko, he initially attempted to draw Spider-Man in a Ditkoesque style, but proved unsuccessful at it; instead, Romita followed his natural tendencies as an artist and made Peter Parker/Spider-Man a much more handsome figure than the one Ditko had drawn, and Stan Lee went along with this. Lee may well have recognized that Kirby’s natural tendency was to draw superheroes with heroic builds, and that whatever their original intentions, a Lee-Kirby Spider-Man would inevitably evolve away from the concept of a normal-looking guy with super-powers. Even on Kirby’s Amazing Fantasy #15 cover, Spider-Man looked more massive and conventionally heroic than the typical version drawn by Ditko.

Besides, the difference between Kirby and Ditko doesn’t just lie in how muscular they make their superheroes look. Kirby and Ditko portray very different visions of the world. Think of Jack Kirby’s superhero art, and you imagine godlike heroes in spectacular action scenes set against fantastic landscapes. On the other hand, Steve Ditko’s strength is in depicting ordinary-looking people in mundane, everyday settings (or else sorcerers in hallucinatory, surrealistic environments, but that’s another series). By saying that “Jack could never draw Spider-Man the way I wanted him to look” (Evanier p. 127), maybe Stan Lee was referring not just to the way Kirby drew Spider-Man the character, but the way that he drew the entire environment of the Spider-Man series–the supporting cast, the neighborhoods,

Moreover, it wasn’t just that Lee changed the way Spider-Man was drawn; he also tossed out the original concept of who Spider-Man was. In the revised origin story that Ditko drew, Spider-Man was no longer a small boy but a high school student, there was no magic ring, and he did not transform into an adult but was an adolescent superhero.

Evanier convincingly argues that the Spider-Man concept was radically revised in order to make the character different from the Fly. That would also provide another reason for taking Kirby off the series, since Kirby had drawn the Fly. As Evanier states, Marvel would have wanted to avoid a lawsuit from Archie.

Furthermore, was it fair to Joe Simon for Kirby to be recycling elements of The Silver Spider into Marvel’s new Spider-Man series? I’m going to assume that Kirby had no bad intentions in this case. Rather, I wonder if this recycling is simply a sign that in 1961 and 1962, comics professionals simply didn’t care as much about issues of originality and credit as they would later on. There wasn’t that much money in comics back then, and comics writers and artists rarely got their names on a story; Stan Lee pioneered regularly giving writers (including himself, of course), artists, and even letterers credits.

Moreover, for decades Lee has stated that in 1961 he was frustrated with comics and was ready to quit, but his wife urged him to start writing comics he would want to read himself; that suggestion inspired the Marvel revolution. It’s clear from looking at these early Silver Age Marvel stories that Stan Lee was consciously breaking new ground. He must have taken pride in this radical new direction he and his collaborators were setting for the superhero genre. As Evanier notes, it was Ditko who informed Lee about the resemblances between the Kirby version of Spider-Man and the Fly. I wonder if it was a matter of pride for Lee, now that he was attempting to raise the level of the superhero genre, not to be seen as imitating another comics character.

Or was it that, once he had embarked on the process of creating a new kid superhero, Lee began to envision ways of making him as different as the Fantastic Four were from previous superhero teams. As Evanier points out, the original version if Spider-Man also resembles the original Captain Marvel–a little boy who magically turns into a superhero. Isn’t it possible that once Lee saw Kirby’s first few pages, he realized he wanted to go in a different, more realistic direction, one for which Ditko’s grittier, quirkier art style would be more appropriate?

The Lee-Ditko Spider-Man is older than the previous Lee-Kirby version, has a different costume, and has nothing to do with magic (at least not until J,. Michael Straczynski recently established that Spider-Man draws his power from the “spider-totem”!). Evanier reports that Kirby “felt he’d at least contributed something” to Spider-Man’s creation, “for which he received neither pay nor acknowledgment” (Evanier p. 128). But the two versions are so different that I wonder if it’s credible to claim Kirby was one of Spider-Man’s co-creators. Rather, it seems that Kirby contributed to a proposed “Spider-Man” character that Lee ended up rejecting. Even if it was Kirby who proposed the “Spider-Man” name, that was based on Joe Simon’s Silver Spider. And certainly one thing that Marvel has shown is that there is a lot more to a superhero character than his name.

Evanier reveals that Kirby disliked another early Marvel super hero, Ant-Man, asserting that “No one fantasizes about being the size of an ant” (Evanier p. 128). “Years later,” Evanier goes on, “Jack would be both incensed and amused by a scholarly article that suggested that because he was not tall, the Marvel hero with whom he most closely identified had to be Ant-Man” (Evanier p. 128). I fear that as comics increasingly receive academic and critical attention, we’re going to see many more cases of scholars and reviewers making these sorts of unfounded assumptions. A proper critic would probably steer clear of committing the “intentional fallacy” in any event. But now asserting that people will doubtless speculate that Kirby hated being short and that’s why he so disdained Ant-Man–and joined with Stan in turning him into Giant-Man, as if overcompensating!

The character with whom Kirby did identify strongly was Nick Fury, saying that the invincible war hero turned superspy “Nick Fury is how I wish others saw me. Ben Grimm [The Thing] is probably closer to the way they do see me” (Evanier p.131). Does that mean Kirby thought others regarded him as bad-tempered? Or comical? Or monstrous? And again, did Stan Lee think of Nick Fury as an avatar of Jack Kirby? Or did Stan put some of his own personality into Fury? And did Jim Steranko think of Fury as an idealized Kirby surrogate when he took over the Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD series?

You might think that today’s comics pros might have already figured out that Fury has a lot in common with Kirby. But considering that Marvel’s Ultimates line depicts Nick Fury as a lookalike for Samuel L. Jackson, perhaps not. Think of Fury as Kirby’s idealized self-portrait, and Fury’s use of profanity in Marvel’s MAX line becomes even more offensive. But the writers who really don’t get it are the ones who, over the decades, insist on portraying Fury as a Machiavellian spymaster, defending an authoritarian reestablishment. What does this have to do with Jack Kirby’s idealized self-portrait? Or with the running theme of Kirby’s career, in which he struggled against corporate power rather than aligning himself with it?

Evanier describes how Kirby participated in the creation of Iron Man: even though it was Don Heck who drew the original story, Heck was following “some concept sketches” and a cover that Kirby had done. To my surprise, Kirby even had a hand in the genesis of Daredevil, apparently contributing plot ideas to Daredevil’s early issues and even coming up with the design for his billy club. Kirby drew the first Daredevil covers: does that mean he designed DD’s original yellow-and-black costume? “Often, on a comic where he did not do the interiors,” Evanier states, “he’d draw the cover and, in so doing, design a villain or other new character who’d appear within” (Evanier p. 133). Is there any way at this point of compiling a list of how many Silver Age Marvel characters Kirby thus designed, whom comics historians have presumably been crediting to other artists instead?

How much compensation did Kirby get for this helping to create characters in series and stories that he did not draw? It doesn’t appear that anyone at Marvel kept official records of Kirby’s contributions to creating characters in such circumstances. Again, it seems that in the early 1960s, before anyone realized that someday this would be of historical and financial importance, there was a much more lax attitude about apportioning credit for creating characters and series or contributing to plots. No one was getting royalties in comics back then, and it was assumed that the companies owned everything. Why would Kirby design characters for series he did not draw, and got no credit for, even a lead character like Iron Man, unless he thought at the time that it wasn’t a matter of importance?

Perhaps Kirby’s dissatisfaction with the status quo grew as Marvel became more successful and the commercial value of the characters grew considerably. Evanier writes that “Almost nothing about Jack’s working relationship with Marvel was on paper–not even, at the time, any delineation of what rights he had or was giving up to the material. Jack didn’t much like that, but he didn’t see an alternative” (Evanier p. 136).

Evanier doesn’t think much of Lee and Kirby’s revelation in Avengers #4 that Captain America had been in suspended animation, frozen within a block of ice, since the end of World War II: “The science was ridiculous,” complains Evanier, adding that “Stan and Jack would each later blame the other for it” (Evanier p. 131). But regardless of its scientific validity, Lee and Kirby concocted a brilliant image: Captain America as the blonde sun god, trapped in the realm of winter (and symbolically death), until he is resurrected by the warm waters of life. This may not make sense in terms of science, but it makes perfect sense in the metaphorical language of myth, and that is far more important to the superior genre.

Evanier disputes the familiar notion that Lee and Kirby’s “Galactus trilogy” in Fantastic Four #48-50 was founded on the premise of the FF fighting God: “it’s hard to see how Galactus, who consumed life instead of creating it, resembled either’s notion of the Almighty” (Evanier p. 138).

But Lee and Kirby had already done stories about evil “gods,” notably Loki in Thor. Kirby would go on to create The New Gods and his other “Fourth World” series at DC, in which the most memorable figure is Darkseid, the evil god who rules the hellish planet Apokolips and seeks the “anti-life formula.” in the 1970s Kirby returned to Marvel and created The Eternals, which featured the “space gods” known as the Celestials who might annihilate the Earth in fifty years for reasons that are utterly inscrutable to humanity. Lee and Kirby may have believed in a more benign God, but that doesn’t mean they could not imagine a malevolent or destructive deity.

Moreover, as I’ve argued in my column here (see “Comics in Context” #184: “Clobbered Again”) and here (“Comics in Context” #185: “Get Off of My Cloud”), the Galactus trilogy can be read as dealing with three different aspects of God. Galactus is the God of Wrath, who has sentenced all living beings to inevitable death, and who cares nothing for inferior beings like humans. Uatu the Watcher is a benevolent, fatherly God, who nevertheless ordinarily refrains from intervening in human affairs, preferring to help mortals to succeeded through their own efforts. Then there’s the Silver Surfer, who, whether or not Lee and Kirby consciously intended it, acts as a Christ figure, sacrificing himself to save humanity. Ultimately the good aspect of God–the Watcher–makes it possible for humanity–Reed Richards–to assert their right to exist, overcoming the destructive aspect of God.

Evanier contends that Kirby thought of Galactus as a metaphor for “corporate raiders” who would “drain” a company of “its assets, and move on, “leaving a hollow, inert shell” (Evanier p. 138). Might Kirby have subconsciously expressing a fear that Marvel or the comics industry in general was draining his own creativity, leaving him a “hollow shell” without either credit or sufficient compensation? Indeed, Evanier reports that Kirby was concerned about his own health, and was seeking “health insurance and maybe a pension” from Marvel at this time, but in vain (Evanier p. 138).

Stan Lee has repeatedly acknowledged that when he received the original art pages for Fantastic Four #48, he was surprised to see the Surfer for the first time. He and Kirby had not discussed the Surfer beforehand; Kirby got the idea to give Galactus a herald and inserted him into the story. So now the Silver Surfer is generally regarded as having been created solely by Kirby.

But is that quite right? In the BBC documentary In Search of Steve Ditko (see “Comics in Context” #208: “Creative Differences”), Stan Lee explains that since he came up with the idea for a superhero called Spider-Man, then he should be acknowledged as the character’s sole creator. For the sake of argument, let’s assume here that Lee’s memory is correct and he did originate the idea. But comics is a visual medium. and Ditko devised the visual aspect of Spider-Man. Shouldn’t Ditko then be credited as Spider-Man’s co-creator?

Now let’s apply a similar argument to the Silver Surfer. Kirby introduced the character into Fantastic Four #48, designed his visual appearance, and gave him the role of Galactus’s herald: Kirby plotted the Surfer’s role in the first comic in which he appeared. But the Galactus trilogy is a three-part story. Once Kirby had introduced the Surfer, did Stan Lee co-plot the Surfer’s scenes in FF #49 and 50, including his meeting with Alicia Masters and his rebellion against Galactus, both of which defined the Surfer’s characterization? Does anyone know? Even if we assume that Kirby is solely responsible for plotting the Surfer sequences throughout the entire Galactus trilogy (And why should we?) and did border notes suggesting what the Surfer was talking about, it is still Stan Lee who wrote the Surfer’s dialogue throughout the Galactus trilogy. And one of Stan Lee’s greatest talents is the ability to delineate characterization through dialogue. Lee is ultimately responsible for creating the way in which the Silver Surfer speaks, and in defining his personality through that dialogue, in his initial appearances. Doesn’t Lee therefore merit credit as the Surfer’s co-creator? If Kirby created the pictures, Lee created the words.

Evanier draws a distinction between Kirby’s vision of the Surfer as a truly alien being, to whom human emotions are new concepts, and the origin that Lee gave him–without Kirby’s participation–in Silver Surfer #1 (August 1968) as a being who had once been a man like ourselves, but had vowed to serve Galactus in order to save his home world and the woman he loved. “That may have been the Surfer that Stan had been writing,” comments Evanier, “but it wasn’t the one that Jack had been drawing” (Evanier p. 141). That’s an interesting way to phrase it. It suggests that Lee and Kirby were indeed co-creators of the Surfer as he had appeared in previous stories in Fantastic Four, with Lee endowing the Surfer with a personality that contradicted Kirby’s intentions for the character. Since Lee was in charge, his interpretation of the Surfer’s personality won out. (Was Lee even aware that Kirby interpreted the Surfer differently? Had they discussed the subject? I’ve seen Lee recently say that Kirby considered the Surfer a “throwaway” character, and that he therefore adopted him. So it seems that even nowadays Lee is unaware of what the Surfer meant to Kirby.)

The Surfer’s origin was perhaps the most blatant case of Lee overruling Kirby’s intentions for a character or story. By the end of the 1960s, Evanier states, Kirby was completely plotting the stories he did with Lee, but “Sometimes Stan would deviate wildly from what Jack had intended. . . . [Kirby] loved the stories he developed. and would often feel that Stan’s word balloons stripped some issue of its meaning or inverted a key concept” (Evanier p. 147). It’s easy to see why Kirby would feel frustrated by this. He had obviously reached the point at which it was necessary for him to break off his collaboration with Lee and, if he could find the opportunity, either write his own stories or find a scripter who would more closely follow his ideas.

But I find myself sympathizing with Lee, as well. He was not only the credited writer but also the editor, the boss responsible for the entire Marvel line of comics. I imagine that Lee regarded his role as not simply to follow Kirby’s instructions in the border notes, but to mold the material in ways that he felt would make it better and more appealing to readers. Lee and Kirby weren’t equals in their collaborations in terms of their roles at Marvel: Lee was the editor, so that meant he had the final word.

Marvel recently published Fantastic Four: The Lost Adventure #1, containing one of the final FF stories that Kirby drew, which Marvel had not previously published in complete form. The original artwork is reproduced with Kirby’s border notes; then you can read the “restored” version of the story with new dialogue by Stan Lee. And you can see for yourselves that Lee’s scripting consistently improves upon Kirby’s suggestions in the borders.

By the late 1960s Marvel was making money from merchandising superheroes that Kirby had co-created, putting his artwork on toys and such, there was a Fantastic Four TV show in 1967, and the year before there was a Marvel Super Heroes television series that reproduced Kirby artwork on screen. But Kirby wasn’t seeing any money from any of this.

Evanier reports that around this time Kirby learned that Bob Kane, the officially credited creator of Batman, had just made a “million dollar deal” with DC, but that DC had just fired a number of its veteran writers, including Bill Finger, who had written most of the early Batman stories and conceived most of the character’s basic mythos (see “Comics in Context” #94: “Back to Brigadoon”). “The lesson was not lost on Kirby,” Evanier writes: “Bob Kane, who’d been recognized as the creator of a successful property, had gotten rich. Bill Finger, who hadn’t, had gotten fired” (Evanier p. 150)

But was that the real lesson? Wasn’t it not just that Kane was recognized as Batman’s creator, but that DC wanted to make sure that Kane didn’t claim ownership of the copyright on Batman and take this valuable property away from them? Having been employed by Kane to write Batman, Finger presumably couldn’t pose that kind if threat to DC, so the DC Comics administration of that period obviously felt they could get away with treating Finger like dirt.

Did Kirby have any legal claim on the Marvel characters he co-created? Apparently Marvel didn’t think so back in the 1960s. Kirby kept hoping that Marvel would give him a better deal out of a simple sense of fairness. But the corporate mindset doesn’t believe in giving money better deals unless its forced to do so. Evanier writes that “All he [Kirby] wanted was a little more money, some kind of long-term financial security for himself and his family and an official acknowledgment of his status as co-creator” (Evanier p. 153). These are miniscule prices to pay for everything that Kirby had done for Marvel in the 1960s.

But Marvel’s new corporate owners saw no reason to pay for what they already possessed. Rewarding loyalty isn’t a reason that made sense to them. Unlike Kane, Kirby had no leverage, or did not think he did. All that Kirby could do is threaten to quit, depriving the company of his talents.

But, according to Evanier, Marvel’s new owners in 1970 believed that Stan Lee, presumably since he was the writer and editor, generated all the creative ideas at Marvel, and that the artists were interchangeable and simply implemented Lee’s ideas. Marvel had gone corporate, and the new bureaucrats were characteristically willfully blind to any reality that conflicted with their preconceptions. They apparently neither knew about the “Marvel method” of creating characters and stories, nor cared to find out, nor felt any need to learn enough about the comics business to discover why Jack Kirby was an irreplaceable creative resource. Back in 1970 it’s likely none of them considered comics to be anything more than crap to sell to kids. Marvel’s owners did not feel threatened whatsoever by the prospect of Jack Kirby quitting.

And so in 1970 Kirby did quit rather than suffer further mistreatment. He went to DC, where he created a masterwork, his “Fourth World.” But beyond that lay an astonishing downturn in his career, as we shall see next time.

ADDENDUM: Speaking of copyright challenges, as I was above: shortly after I finished writing this installment of my column, I discovered this March 29, 2008 article in The New York Times revealing that the heirs of Superman co-creator Jerry Siegel–including his widow Joanne, the model for Lois Lane–has just been granted partial ownership of the character by a federal court. Well, well, well. I didn’t realize just how formidable Lois Lane can be. . . . .

LINKS IN THE AMAZON CHAIN

Here’s a new feature that I should have thought of long ago. From now on, I’m going to supply links to Amazon for any books or DVDs that I review in my column. Here’s where you can go to order a copy of Mark Evanier’s Kirby: King of Comics for only $26.40, discounted from the list price of $40 (CLICK HERE TO ORDER).

cic2008-03-31.jpgNot only that, but I’m going to start rotating links to my own books at Amazon. com. The proper place to begin is with my most recent book, The Marvel Comics Travel Guide to New York City from Simon and Schuster (CLICK HERE TO ORDER). This is a handbook to the real, fictional, and fictionalized locations in stories throughout Marvel history: everything from the United Nations complex (site of appearances by Magneto and the Sub-Mariner) to the Daily Bugle building (both the comics and the movie versions, which are in very different sections of town!). If you’re a Marvel fan and you’ll be visiting New York City, this book will serve as your guide both to the Manhattan of real life and the Manhattan of the imagination, where superheroes swing high among the skyscrapers.

Copyright 2008 Peter Sanderson

Win TERRY JONES’ MEDIEVAL LIVES on DVD!

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Quick Stop Thingamabobs: 3/31/2008

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The web. It’s a big place, full of plenty of distractions — some funny, some informative, some ludicrous, some disturbing, some inane, some profound. Each and every weekday, we present links to a few of our favorite finds…

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March 29, 2008

Ken P. D. Snyde-Cast #36: The Snydes

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Adult Swim’s Dana Snyder and FRED’s Ken Plume set out to have a literate conversation between two pals, but inevitably devolve into a verbal, and funny, free-for-all full of bickering, infighting, and the special kind of male bonding that comes from conflict expressed through the podcast medium.

Actor/comedian/raconteur Dana Snyder, you’re certainly aware, is Aqua Teen Hunger Force’s Master Shake, Squidbillies‘ Granny, Minoriteam’s Dr. Wang, and The Venture Bros.‘ Alchemist. Available for weddings and bar mitzvahs (bat availability pending), you can keep tabs on him via his website, www.eyeofthesnyder.com.

Ken Plume is the editor-in-chief here at FRED. He is a friend of Dana’s, as well as his arch-nemesis.

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KEN P.D. SNYDECAST #36: The Snydes – Ken & Dana return with a brilliant new take on a Saturday Morning staple, plus diversions into woodworking, limericks, Dom Deluise, celebrities showing their age, Dana’s relationship with his brother, and even John Hodgman.

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March 28, 2008

Weekend Shopping Guide 3/28/08: The First Cut Is The Deepest

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The weekend’s here. You’ve just been paid, and it’s burning a hole in your pocket. What’s a pop culture geek to do? In hopes of steering you in the right direction to blow some of that hard-earned cash, it’s time for the Quick Stop Weekend Shopping Guide – your spotlight on the things you didn’t even know you wanted…

Every once in a awhile, a nicely quirky romantic flick will come down the pike and reassure me that there’s still some life in cinema, and my cynical outlook is only 99.9% correct. The latest movie to keep things from redlining is Wristcutters: A Love Story (Lionsgate, Rated R, DVD-$26.98 SRP), a unique tale of love in the not-quite-afterlife – a drab location where those who commit suicide are sent to. Into this humdrum existence enters, improbable love springs into the heart of Zia (Patrick Fugit)… And to say anymore would spoil it. Just give it a spin. Bonus materials include an audio commentary, behind-the-scenes featurettes, delete scenes, and more.

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A rather beautiful tale about a pair of young boys, Amir and Hussan, in pre-Soviet Afghanistan whose friendship is torn apart, leading the now-adult Amir to try and set things right, The Kite Runner (Dreamworks, Rated PG-13, DVD-$29.99 SRP) was certainly an enjoyable flick, and worthy of a spin. Bonus features include an audio commentary, a featurette, images, and the theatrical trailer.

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I’ve been waiting a long time for a proper remastered special edition of Bonnie and Clyde (Warner Bros., Rated R, DVD-$20.98 SRP) and we’ve finally got it. In addition to the aforementioned remastering (and it does look sweet), the 2-disc set features a newly-produced suite of documentaries celebrating the film’s 40th anniversary, the History Channel profile on the real couple, wardrobe tests, additional scenes, and trailers.

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In some ways, age has not been kind to Ang Lee’s The Ice Storm (Criterion, Rated R, DVD-$39.95 SRP). This suburban soap opera set at the height of an emotionally repressed winter in 1973 – powerful when I first saw it years ago – now seems heavy-handed and almost farcical in its plot twists. Still, it’s compulsive viewing, and Criterion has done a wonderful job in the remastering process. The 2-disc edition features an audio commentary from Lee and producer/screenwriter James Schamus, a newly-produced documentary, deleted scenes, an interview with novelist Rick Moody, and more.

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Unexpectedly, an extended cut of Walk The Line (Fox, Not Rated, DVD-$26.98 SRP) has hit DVD. It’s not a fundamentally different film, and largely just allows the narrative to breathe a little more. Of note, though, is that the 2-disc edition is loaded down with bonus features, including an audio commentary, extended musical sequences, deleted scenes, featurettes, and more..

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Spend some quality time with the seedier side of the law with the third volume of Warners’ Gangsters Collection (Warner Bros., Not Rated, DVD-$59.98 SRP). Fully remastered and straight from the vaults, the set features Smart Money, Lady Killer, Picture Snatcher, Brother Orchid, The Mayor Of Hell, and Black Legion. Bonus features include audio commentaries, vintage featurettes and newsreels, cartoons, and more.

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US Secret Service Agents James West and Artemus Gordon face off for the last time with the evil Dr. Loveless in the fourth season of The Wild Wild West (Paramount, Not Rated, DVD-$49.98 SRP). The 6-disc set features all 24 classic episodes that go a long way towards washing away the bitter taste of that horrid big screen take on the material from a few years back.

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I think it’s a sign of how little good sci-fi comes down the cinematic pike nowadays that there is a fondness for the decent – tho far from exceptional – Gattaca (Sony, Rated PG-13, DVD-$19.94 SRP). It’s a slick flick and features a fine, blunt moral about the strength of the human spirit and such, but it could just as well be a TV movie. The new special edition does, at least, feature a new transfer, as well as new interviews with the cast in addition to the bonus materials from the previous release.

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For years, it seemed like the 3 available seasons of Sliders were going to be it. In quite a surprising move, the 4th, penultimate season is now available (Universal, Not Rated, DVD-$59.98 SRP) – making the release of the 5th and final season seem like a plausible reality. The 5-disc set features all 22 episodes, but sadly no bonus materials.

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Fox releases a trio of new noir flicks from deep in the vaults – Dangerous Crossing, Daisy Kenyon, and Black Widow (Fox, Not Rated, DVD-$14.98 SRP each). Special featurettes include audio commentaries, featurettes, galleries, trailers, and more.

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Birds are in the air and the green is coming back to the trees, which means it’s time for Baseball-themed films to make their way to DVD. A pair of classic Baseball flicks – one old school and one modern – have gotten new special editions just in time for spring fever. Pride Of The Yankees & Eight Men Out (MGM/UA, Not Rated/Rated PG, DVD-$14.98 SRP each) contain behind-the-scenes featurettes, an audio commentary (from John Sayles on Eight Men Out, and more.

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Okay, I’ve watched it twice now, and I still don’t know what the hell Richard Kelly is trying to say with his future-LA-after-the-fall ensemble piece that plays like Stanley Kubrick channeling Robert Altman. I dug Donnie Darko something fierce when I first saw it, but Southland Tales (Sony, Rated R, DVD-$24.96 SRP) just leaves me – not so much cold, but bewildered. By all means, give it a spin and see if you can figure it out. Bonus features include a behind-the-scenes featurette and an animated short (Boy, what I wouldn’t give for an illuminating commentary…).

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Robert Stack returns as G-Man Eliot Ness in the first volume of The Untouchables‘ second season (Paramount, Not Rated, DVD-$39.98 SRP). The 4-disc set features 16 Capone-hounding episodes and more fedoras than you can shake a stick at.

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By the time it reached its third season, the Party of Five (Sony, Not Rated, DVD-$39.95 SRP) had pretty much grown to a cast of 7 regulars, including the core Salinger clan. Honestly, the show never did a thing for me, but I know there are fans out there that loved it during its heyday. The 5-disc set features all 25 episodes, plus “minisodes” of The Facts Of Life and Silver Spoons.

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Have a Yul Brynner-thon with a trio of catalogue releases – one of which actually finds him with hair – with Kings of the Sun, Solomon and Sheba, & Taras Bulba (MGM/UA, Not Rated, DVD-$19.98 SRP each). The discs are all bare bones, but the flicks are at least a nice flash back to old school epic filmmaking with only the slightest of hyperbolic touches.

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So there you have it… my humble suggestions for what to watch, listen to, play with, or waste money on this coming weekend. See ya next week…

-Ken Plume

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Comics & Comics: The Con of Man

Filed under: Comics and Comics — admin @ 3:41 am

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Howdy Inter-Webbers. I’m Matt Cohen, and I dig comic-cons.

Where else on earth can a group of like minded folks converse about the things they love without fear of persecution or ridicule?

Thats right… Nowhere (I made some calls.)
What is traditionally a “Uber Nerd” mecca, has quickly transitioned over the years to a socially acceptable activity, maybe even “cool” in some circles. The difference between a con now, and one ten years prior is immense. This is a great thing for con fans, but may have begun to backfire, just a bit. With this sudden “hip” version of a comic con, could we the fan be losing what it is that made Cons so appealing in the first place? Well, I attended a comic con recently, in what is arguably the “Hippest” city on earth (if you don’t count Gorilla City… Grodd knows how to party), and was frankly, shocked at what I found. And what I found, was hardly anything. More after this weeks stand-out picks.

DC

All-Star Superman #10 Yet again, Grant Morrison has outdone himself with the sheer level of ingenuity and quite frankly, brilliance of his writing. This issue is fantastic from panel one to the last page. Episode 10 of the series finds Kal dealing with his apparent and imminent death, and all the ramifications said event will have upon the people and planet he loves. Kal basically flies around the Earth (and beyond) spending all his time trying to adjust wrongs and plant the seed of his legacy. There are some extremely touching and heartfelt moments in this book, which is rare in mainstream comics and even more hard to find in Super Hero books. And though this book is out of current continuity, it doesn’t make the effects of Kal’s journey any less monumental or worth reading about. There is a particular moment with Lex Luthor where Morrison manages to pretty much sum up his entire character without saying one word. Powerful stuff and a great read. Check it out

Teen Titans V.3 #57: With the relaunch of the series (Penned by Green Arrow’s and The Real Worlds Judd Winnick) impending, its about time to clean house and make things fresh for the changeover. Issue 57 served that purpose, and then some. The majority of the issue finds the Titans facing against their new aptly named rivals, The Terror Titans with the focus being on one of my favorite women in all of comicdom, Ravager. Most of the action is mainly with Rose, but there is one panel in particular with Kid Devil that is pretty shocking. This book definitely feels like its leading someplace, and the last page only reinforces that feeling. Something big is brewing for the Titans. And there’s only one place to catch it.

Notable: Spirit V.6 #15, Blue Beetle V.7 #25
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New Avengers #39: Ah, New Avengers. At least there is still one Avenger title worth reading (Ive never checked out Marvel Adventures, so no passing judgement). This week we see the aftermath of the teams total dissolution. The Skrull was is nearing and everyone has gone their own separate ways. In this book, we find Wolverine and Maya together, confronting their past and the Skrull invasion. This is one of the more cerebral book in Super comics right now, and this issue is sort of like the Luke Cage/Jessica “talking” issue in its tone, though definitely not in its level of action. Secret Invasion is coming, have no doubt. And this is going to be the flagship book to launch the event. If you have any interest in the future of the Marvel Universe, I strongly suggest you pick up New Avengers. That is, if you’re not a Skrull
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Wolverine First Class #1: Leave it to Marvel to always try to clone (Spidey Joke!) success, and luckily, this time they succeed. I know what alot of you are thinking, “No way! Not another Wolverine title!” but this one is unique and well developed, and therefore merits checking out. With X-Men:First Class a bona fide hit (and for good reason, its a fantastic book) we knew it would be sooner before later that Marvel tryed its hand at the First Class book again. This time, the treatment goes to perennial favorite (and the definition of over saturation) Wolverine. In issue one, Logan and new X-member Kitty are dispatched to a bizarre town to handle some violent anti-mutant activities. Though this book reads very much like the other First Class titles, it also reads like “Kitty Pryde: First Class” and not a book about Wolverine, as advertised. For the premiere issue its not too big a deal, but sooner or later this book better focus on Logan. A promising new series.

Notable : X-Men First Class V.2 #10, Daredevil V.2 #106,
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Indie

Usagi Yojimbo V.3 # 10: Despite how many decades this book has or will be published it will never get stale. It still is simply, one of the best comic series I have ever read. Its hard to differentiate each issue week to week in terms of level of quality, because in my opinion they are all the same degree of amazing art, courtesy of the genius that is Stan Sakai. This week, everyones favorite Ninja Rabbit is wandering the long and winding roads with his Rhino compatriot Gen en tow and it is a fairly typical issue until about the halfway point, and that is what makes this issue stand out. The turning of Gen. The ensuing battle between Usagi, Usagi (too cool for me to explain and ruin) and Gen is epic and something I will always remember. Things in the Usagi universe are seemingly in turmoil. And then in typical Sakai fashion, everything winds up okay and our rabbit friend lives to fight another day. Very good issue of what is one of the greatest comics of all time, in my not so humble opinion.

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Wizard World Los Angeles 08…The Con that wasn’t:As I walked through the big double doors, leading from the parking lot to the main exhibition area of the Los Angeles Convention Center, a strange sight hit my weary, road-tired eyes. “Where is everyone?”. I am a veteran of the annual New York Comic-Con at the Javitz Center, and though its no San Diego the sheer number of people in attendance is usually pretty staggering. Now, I wasn’t expecting quite that, but was quite shocked when I realized that the L.A equivalent was about a tenth the size (and an even smaller percentage of the fun) of its NY counterpart. Im not complaining because of the lack of crowd, heck, Im all for that… Less people equals easier walking and a more palatable crowd odor). What seemed to happen though, is less people means less artists/exhibitors which means less things to keep you busy while walking around the con floor. Upon entering the actual con, a feeling of “This is it?” was hard to keep bottled down. What is usually the grand entrance to the “comic world” if you will, complete with an army of security, was basically one lady sporadically checking badges. Upon entering, where one would typically be greeted with more free handouts then they can carry, I met nothing. Not even as much as a person in costume handing out stickers! What kind of con was this? I thought Wizard had their stuff in order.
Things quickly went from bad to worse when I took my initial stroll around the con floor. “Thats odd” I though to myself, “I can find the Marvel booth but cant seem to locate any of the other major companies… Theres Marvel and theres Aspen, but I cant see anyone else!”. Then I found out the most troubling news of the day… There was no one else.
No D.C, No Image, No Wildstorm, No IDW, No Dark Horse, hell even newbie to the scene Virgin was absent from the floor. If the people who make the comics I come to these things to celebrate dont even bother to show up, why the heck should I be here?

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This picture pretty much sums up the vibe of the day.After strolling past the empty front of the con floor, I was greeted with the circus of vendors that usually greet one at this sort of an event. Yet, at an event with no real content, to have this many vendors sort of seemed unfair. Its like all you got with the purchase of a badge was the opportunity to purchase more stuff while inside the con. That is a backwards way to do business.
Artist Alley was unfortunately pretty sad as well. Only about three rows strong and not alot of fans perusing said rows. It was really weird to look into the faces of so many lost and confused attendees, not knowing where to go or what to do to make the price of admission worthwhile. The panels offered were meager and spread out way too far (and Seth Green appeared at 90 percent of them… Not that I dont like Seth Green, but that the dude doesn’t even write comic books!) to be enjoyable, and with hardly any of the heavy hitters in the industry present, most events were made up of unknowns or glorified fans.

The one thing that seemed to actually excite people was something entirely non comic related. Summer Glau’s autograph line stretched the entire length of the space, and seemed to contain at least 80 percent of the people in attendance. When an attractive girl can overshadow the entire rest of your con, you know something is wrong. In my few hours spent wandering the floor, I came to a sad conclusion… No one really cared. The fans, the exhibitors, the artists… It seemed like everyone was just going through the motions. Like this was a shell of a con, it looked like one from all outside accounts, but once inside you quickly find it hollow and devoid of any real substance.

Well, its been real folks. Check back next week for a review of the live comedy taping “Comedy by the Numbers” performed by Bob Odenkirk and a cast of improv and T.V greats.

And as always,

“Keep em’ bagged and boarded”

Matt Cohen is currently trying to recreate Kandor in a Fresca bottle.

Trailer Park: Aaron Yoo

Filed under: Interviews,Trailer Park — admin @ 3:36 am

By Christopher Stipp

Archives? Right Here…

I’m awesome. I wrote a book. It’s got little to do with movies. Download and read “Thank You, Goodnight” right HERE for free.

Note Bene: If anyone within the sound of my voice is anywhere near Phoenix next week then I cordially invite you to check out the Phoenix Film Festival. Normally a place where I went to see average or above par films the selection has genuinely ripened with age since its inception.

If you’re around you can see early peeks, and films I am amped to go preview before their actual release date in other theaters across the country, for flicks like Quick Stop’s exclusive THE ART OF TRAVEL, SON OF RAMBOW, FORBIDDEN KINGDOM and even a theatrical screening of FERRIS BUELLER’S DAY OFF.

This will be my 4th year attending what I can only describe as an intimate festival and I am looking forward to finding a gem or two in this desert oasis so if you’re around these parts let me know.

Now, on to the column at hand…

I homogeneously suck at math.

It’s not some false sense of modesty I have about my abilities, believe me, but I am terrible enough at adding and subtracting that in order for me to graduate with my English degree I had to complete the bare minimum of math competency, MAT 101, aka College Algebra. I was, and am, plum terrible at realizing anything that has to do with numbers. That said it is movies like 21 that puts me face to face with this eternal truth about myself and I suck wicked bad at these things.

Opening today, 21, based on Ben Mezrich’s nonfiction book ‘Bringing Down The House’, stars Kevin Spacey, Kate Bosworth, Laurence Fishburne and Aaron Yoo and deals with the Hollywood retelling of how a pack of young upstarts started to turn the proverbial tables on the casinos.

Talking with one of the stars of the film, Aaron Yoo (DISTURBIA, ROCKET SCIENCE), I was reminded how nice it was to talk with an actor who became familiar with the material and just interpreted the role in a way that embraced the nature of what these young men and women were out to accomplish. Further, even beyond 21, Aaron has the kind of casual, breezy conversational way about him that I was struck by how verbose he was. Too many times you can get caught with an actor/actress who wants to stay on point and will not waver and will give you short, pointed answers bereft of anything special. Aaron is a giver. He expounded and I was more than happy to let him run with it. In fact, the conversation doesn’t even begin talking about the movie but his thoughts on Moment of Truth was too good to not include here as it leads into talking about the very real story behind this film.

CHRISTOPHER STIPP: How are you doing?

AARON YOO: I’m doing well. How are you?

CS: I’m doing alright.

YOO: What’s going on? What are we talking about?

CS: Well, I think we’re going to talk about a couple of things. 21 I guess.

YOO: 21 ““ what’s that?

CS: It’s a prime number.

YOO: And legal age in drinking. My first arrest.

CS: Really?YOO: Wouldn’t that be a funny coincidence? Probably should have been for all sorts of things but no, I’ve never been arrested. I’ve managed to get away from them. I lived near Runyon Canyon in West Hollywood and there was this eclipse, full lunar eclipse, one night and we jumped the fence into the canyon and went to a high level on the hills in the park and police helicopters were sent in, and they were yelling, “Get the hell out of the park. You are trespassing.” We were people in a park. Made no sense ““ go chase a car.

CS: Every time I see a car chase on TV it’s usually some dude from LA.

YOO: I remember I was reading about that stuff before I got out here and I felt like obsessed about car chases and how absurd they are. They put these car chases on TV. If you are in a bar it’s on TV so we’re drinking beer and watching the car chase. It’s ridiculous.

CS: Doesn’t anyone get it that there is a 100% failure rate? I almost feel sorry for these ignorant people who try to flee.

YOO: Yeah, they are really stupid or they are the same people who go on that show Moment of Truth. So desperate for attention ““ certain level of stupidity to get on the show.

CS: I’m embarrassed that I watched it last night.

YOO: I seldom see the show, but I’m obsessed with it.

CS: I feel it is the visual decline of western civilization.

YOO: It is. We have hit rock bottom. Sacrifice your child”¦.but no one should ever see it. The original show, the European show”¦.they said that it got canceled because they asked this woman a question “Would you ever put a hit out on your husband?” and the lie detector went nuts. Come to find out that she hired somebody to kill her husband.

(I laugh)It’s ridiculous.

CS: There needs to be more of that. You just have to spin it in your own mind that these people should make us feel better about our lives.

YOO: At least we are not them.

CS: Exactly.

YOO: Rational. But yeah, it sort of speaks to the movie. That sort of thing. If someone gave you an opportunity. Class? Oh, “f” that. Here’s a ticket on the Vegas express, go be a pimp for 3 days and then come back to class…

CS: That launches me into asking you why these students are so special. Why were they so successful? Anyone with a math kind of brain could have figured it out. What made them so different?

YOO: Part of it isn’t just math.

They kept joking ““ I heard a rumor there was some concern from casino owners that those who see the movie would learn how to card count and whatnot. But you can pick up an actual book fully explaining how to card count ““ we just simplify it. The actual rules are still the same but we use a very stripped down version of a plus and minus system. They don’t get that complex but they are very hard to ““ if you’ve ever tried to count through a deck at the speed that a casino dealer is going to deal cards out to you it’s extremely hard. I’ve tried ““ it’s very hard to play and, at the same time, to maintain anonymity. I met someone who works as a producer in LA who has friends who still run a 12 million dollar team. They get 10 to 12 million dollars and, with recommendations, they train people for 6 weeks, like 20 people and do a three day test. If you screw up once in three days you are off. So you just wasted several weeks of your life. But when they end up with the 6 or 8 people that make it and it takes about 4 to 6 months before they are burned out through facial recognition software.

But in those 4 to 6 months they return a minimum of 50 percent ““ sometimes 100 percent. The crazy thing is these guys are being paid like bankers, like investment bankers. They get a base salary and a percentage. They are making money that people make on Wall Street. It’s just a little bit more glamorous. And when they are done they can go to some strip club or open a bottle of Cristal champagne poolside out at the Wynn. That’s really the major difference.

It seems like maybe it’s a combination of simple mathematical intelligence like a way ““ a gamblers demeanor ““ poker face ““ there’s a thing when you know the deck is hot through the roof, blazing hot, and we have this thing when we were shooting…just to kill time…there’s a thing in the movie where they associate numbers with words. Like a plus 8 is pool (like 8 ball) or a plus 12 count would be eggs (like a dozen eggs) so we used to try and come up with ““ there’s a little snippet that we knew would not make it into a Sony Pictures film but what the heck, we got to shoot it anyway, we were just messing around. This little bit ““ we have a new one and Jacob’s character says something to the effect of “What’s that?” and we said “statutory” and when he asks for clarification we said plus 17.

(Laughs)

But it is just one of the things you do.

The reality is these guys go for a week and barely sleep. They fly in Friday after classes and start gambling Friday night, you hit the tables at prime time, 11 PM -Midnight and go all the way through to 10 the next morning ““ cash out, get some sleep, wake up, eat some food, and do it again. In some ways it an unhealthy lifestyle, but by the time you are home you are jetting home late Sunday night thousands of dollars up and really, really short on sleep. But what you’re doing is sitting at these tables for 12 hours sometimes.

Someone asked me if I was a good poker player and I told them truthfully that I’m good for 4 hours but then I don’t have the patience to be a really good poker player. Maybe it is something you learn. But I start taking risks after 4 hours just out of boredom and that is when you get canned. You throw into the pot that you shouldn’t be into that sort of thing. Just like in blackjack. It requires a lot of concentration and patience because, truthfully, for a deck to get hot like a true count of plus 6 or more you get so many shoes ““ even four or five people playing different tables you might get one hot shoe an hour if you are lucky or even two. And you play that in 10 minutes and make a lot of money. You go back in the bar and wait again. You stumble off, you bide your time. You have to keep alert and if you are a counter at a table for 12 hours. You switch tables and switch rooms. You don’t want to make it look like you are sitting at a table for 12 hours. You might even go to a different casino but it takes a lot of decisions. You have to be competitive too. You have to want to win. It becomes a need to make more money this weekend than you did last weekend.

I don’t care how grueling it becomes. We’re going to come out on top.

CS: Did you think that when you started to explore these characters, was it based on greed or was it based on something else underneath it?

YOO: Having met some of the guys and having my own understanding of some of these things, if you are just greedy, there are faster and easier ways to make money.

You can, if you just want money, you actually will make money faster by jumping on currency markets or even playing stocks or hedge funds. You can make really extreme investments with other people’s money that will make you a lot of more money a lot faster. There is just a dangerous thrill to this. Especially when these guys were playing before big corporations were buying up ““ like two thirds or three quarters of casinos are the MGM Grand. Back in the day before there were public traded companies owning all of these things, it was dangerous. It’s a competitive thing.

No one is going to beat the crap out of you for making a killing in the stock market.

But in the casinos, truly, like the amount of money these people take from the casinos ““ I had a friend who used to apprentice with Siegfried and Roy and the two weeks that those guys were not working, the casino grossed 2 million less a night when the show was dark because fewer people were coming in and gambling. They make so much money, these places, that what they were taking from them, as much as it was, which is all the card counters in the world are taking from the casinos, is a drop in the pond.

It’s just a competitive thing. “You are not pulling one over on us.” It’s bulls locking horns in each direction. The card counters go in there with like I don’t care how many cameras you have, I don’t care how many employees you have watching (there’s a security booth, a pit boss, a dealer) ““ and it’s like, “I’m going to beat you.” And then you have the casinos basically saying, “No, I’m smarter than you and there’s no way you are going to pull this off.” The kind of person who would do something like this is the kind of person who is missing something and it’s not money. A lot of the kids who go to MIT come from a lot of money. And what they are missing is ““ the character that I play, Choi, he is trying to find himself by everything that he is not supposed to be.

The person who values the things, how can I put this – he’s the kind of person who doesn’t care how much money you win or what that money is getting you or what that winning of it is doing for you. The game itself is the kind of thing he feeds off of most and I think that most of the people that did this fed off the winnings more than the actual monetary increments of what they were getting.

The majority of the money went back to the investors. So, for them, it’s like if you play basketball you know what your stat line is. It’s not that they don’t know what their scoring average is to the 10th of a point or a hundredth, but at the end of the day you care if you win but a part of you takes a lot of pride in the fact that this is what my scoring average is. So for these guys, yeah, I have to return all this money but part of it was I made X amount of dollars more this weekend than last weekend. That’s all they care about. It’s more money, especially at the age of 19 or 20 that they know what to do with but its more of a top dog kind of thing. So like people like my character, Choi, I think it was the bad ass factor of it. The fact is that you are going to cards because that’s the life you are supposed to have and you have this brain that is good at doing this plus you’re desperate for doing something dangerous.

CS: Did they get their fill at the end? These kids didn’t grow up and continue to be this way so how did everyone cycle out?

YOO: You think they grew up to be normal people?

No.

That’s the weird thing. I bet you ““ I feel like all these guys probably thought I’ll do this for a few years and once I get my fill I’ll go to my normal life and normal job and then I’ll have those four years of craziness from when I was in college. But from what I know about where they are, what they are like”¦

Think about it ““ like you said, there are lot of people who have the brains to handle this…it takes a lot of dedication and takes a lot of other things…you might think you can at least handle the math of it. But, for example, when I was in high school and they wanted to find pole vaulters, they took the entire team and said take this pole and run full speed and then jump. Immediately 95 percent of the kids left. At least you have an option.

There is a scene in the movie where Jim’s character, Ben, gets led by Jacob Pitt’s character, Fisher, to team practice with him for the first time and the door opens and the room is dimly lit and it looks like a conspiracy of sorts. The vast majority of people would say “You people are nuts” and leave but that’s the whole point of it. What you want is people to come into a casino with hundreds of thousands of dollars and have the balls to play with the threat of either A ““ losing all the money or B ““ getting caught. You want the person who is crazy enough to say, “Oh, you want me to go to Vegas and gamble with hundreds, thousands, millions of dollars and doing something that is semi legal though not illegal but they will try to kill you for it if they catch you?” You want that person who would say, “Yeah, I don’t care about that, let’s just do it.” And those kinds of people those people don’t leave a normal life.

I think a couple of them have.

I think the girl that Jill is based off of…she’s a pretty stable one ““ job and everything. But I know a lot of those guys still go back to Vegas all the time. Even if they have normal jobs. Some of them don’t. Like the guy my character is based on is such a sketch ball ““ they love him but it’s like “We can’t get a hold of him. We think he’s in Boston. Maybe he tried to start another team but it’s like we started that way and it’s always going to be that way. ” Some of them did start another team but there is something at the end of the day something is missing.

CS: This opportunity didn’t start it, they already had it in them.

YOO: Yeah. It’s something they’re parents didn’t give them. It’s something their life growing up didn’t give them. Somebody said the same thing about actors in this town recently and they said everyone who comes here to LA chasing a one in a million dream ““ we are all missing something. It’s a little bit insane.

It’s a good point, actually. And I think these people really are missing something. I think they are the kind of person ““ I always look at it as a competitive thing. Someone like Michael Jordan, competitive as he is, is missing something. Probably still is. The hunger comes from somewhere. It’s not that you can’t be fed ““ it’s that you can’t get enough.

CS: Do you think this plan satisfied them? For the people who have written a book about it and come back the other side did it top them off like a fuel tank? Almost as if, “That’s what I needed to move forward.”

YOO: No, man. I know a couple of them and they ““ the fact that they can’t go back to those blackjack tables ““ you can see it in their eyes. They would rather be still playing. The cool thing is the guy that Jim’s character is based on, Ben, they still let him in the casino but they just don’t let him anywhere near the blackjack tables. He’s a high roller and he’ll just run thousands of dollars at a crap table but he would rather be at a blackjack table. It’s like all those things of like, “I used to be the best at this and now I can’t do it anymore.” Can you imagine that? It must just be crazy.

CS: Did these people operate on a different mental level? Like Aspergers syndrome ““ are they completely normal? Are their brains hardwired in a different way?

YOO: They are normal people ““ highly intelligent, but totally normal. It’s funny – you see a visible change when they walk into a casino. They are very charming, amiable people but you walk them into a casino and they are in their element. Something goes off and you see a spark in their eyes. They own the place. It’s really fascinating to see that. It’s one of the things we were playing with in the movie ““ little things like wardrobe and stuff like that ““ I’m pretty sure from what I read and my experiences when they were in Boston, they lived in pajamas. They didn’t brush their hair, they didn’t shower. They were late to class ““ just chilling. They were just normal kids walking the halls and, the characters we play, don’t stand out but you can see that we have a secret ““ the first time we roll into the Hard Rock ““ it’s on. That sort of thing. Not everyone but I think a lot of people get that in different ways. I have friends who are brilliant amazing magnetic actors and awkward in real life but on a stage they are amazing. They are just in their element.

CS: Do they need to be around it?

YOO: Do they need to be around it? I guess. It’s weird to say but someone’s mother said that every job has details and when you find one that you don’t mind the details and actually enjoy them, then that’s what you are supposed to be doing.

Everyone has a place where they are at home. Maybe because they need it or crave it or would you deny them that in a way? Maybe they are in their element when they are at a casino playing the house. They are the reason the casinos have facial recognition software. The shuffle machines ““ in the early 90’s when they were raiding the casinos, they didn’t have any of this stuff. Especially stuff like facial recognition software which was really high end military security technology and way beyond what casinos wanted to spend for security, especially with the amount of cameras and all that stuff. There wasn’t just one team and 6 guys. At MIT I’m told, there was 80 something people. There were a dozen team. They were in and out raiding. It was big business.

A lot of these casinos are old school. Like you’re not going to pull one over. It’s very easy to stop card counting. It’s sort of a game you play. If you are a card counter, hell, if you get a single deck dealer shuffle, but you can’t, but if you can get a four to 8 deck shoe dealer shuffle you can count that.

CS: Is it moot now to try and count cards, then?

YOO: Truly it is”¦ the guy I was talking to about the team they set up with a 10 to 12 million dollar buy-in, they get new people, they pay them and they run them”¦they take them to river boat casinos to the Caribbean and Asia where there is less policing and technology is not as good and will run them and run them until they get recognized and once they get burnt they let them go but they all made a lot of money.

The people made a lot of money, the investors made a lot of money. Then they will wait a while a year and then create a new team. Back in the day, these kids would try and do it for several years. Card counters would make a career out of it. I don’t think you can make a living at it. It’s too difficult. The book I was reading about how to do it explained it in full detail. That guy avoids Vegas ““ the guy that wrote that book he doesn’t play in Vegas but there are places in the world you can go and it won’t be as difficult for you to play. Also, that system he was using was incredibly complex just to master that system. It can make you a lot of money but it takes a lot of brut brain power to wrap your head around just to master that stuff. I mean there are charts about player advantage percentages and all that stuff. We’d be rehearsing and I’d try to throw some of that stuff in and they said I was reading way to much of that book.

It’s difficult to make a career out of this anymore.

If you try to card count by yourself it’s almost impossible to do it successfully. The odds of getting caught are so high. The pattern you have to bet is so obvious. You bet when the count is high in your favor and you play the minimum or close to when it’s not. Any pit boss with half a brain can catch that. What made these guys so great is that they were able to separate the two things. Logically a simple thing but no one had thought about it before 1979 and”¦.so I don’t know. I know people do still make money doing it. There are teams still out there. They don’t want you to think that but the funny thing is, what I’m curious to know is whether people think they can still do this after seeing the movie. There are teams still out there; it’s a lot in strictly an objective sense relative to how many people go to the casinos and gamble a tiny minute fraction of a percent is what people are touting but it takes a lot of work and dedication.

And counting is not illegal and people do it in different degrees.

There are professional blackjack players who are truly counting, even if they say they are not. You have a feeling and general sense of how many face cards have come up and how many low cards have come up, so you can know when the deck is generally in your favor. You can pay a little more attention and know when it’s in your favor and if they think they can catch you doing that they have no legal recourse but they can bar you from the premises. Back in the early 80’s 90’s there was still a big mafia presence in Vegas and there might be still but certainly not to the extent where you hear about people getting backroomed. But they did back then ““ people got backroomed. And that’s part of it too. It’s all happy-go-lucky, they can’t do anything to you but that thug can take you in the back and knock all your teeth out.

CS: Right.

YOO: And if you go to these other places, they may not have face recognition software and may not be quite as savvy but if they catch you there are still places where they will backroom you. People go to Native American casinos and do this sort of thing because in general the casinos are not as high tech or savvy as the ones in Vegas. I know there are triad owned underground casinos in different cities around the world. And if you have the balls to go to one of those places and card count, you should get a prize.

CS: They just don’t have any fear? Or do they think they are better ““ no fear at all?

YOO: I don’t think people that people that do this sort of thing are commando crazy or whatever, I think that fearlessness comes from willful ignorance. If you want something so badly you sort of like in your own head you don’t mind the risk. I don’t think these guys are cliff jumpers and have no sense of self preservation but they want to win so badly they don’t think about the consequences. I think there is something in the movie about that that as well. Especially if you are 19 years old and somebody offers you that and you are hungry enough for it, you don’t even think about”¦.”Yeah, yeah, yeah, we might get caught and blah blah blah we might get caught” and whatever “¦. until you get caught you never think you are going to get caught.

If you read Ben’s book or talk to them you can play two or three years and after a while you get the sense invincibility which is dangerous because then you start to takes risks that you shouldn’t. They guy that Jim’s character, Ben, is based on—we were at the Hard Rock and there’s a scene at the Hard Rock and he goes, “Yeah this is the..” What’s the name of the high roller room? “The Lotus Lounge.” The high stakes room at the Hard Rock, and we were in there doing a scene and he says this is the first place I got burnt out of. Way back in the day when it opened he was playing craps and he had lost 80 grand and was spending his own money and a little bit drunk and they didn’t know what they were doing really, they just opened, they could stretch their own rules because they were taking the Hard Rock to the bank they were still figuring out what they were doing ““ Anyway, he was drunk and walks into the high stakes room and says “I’m going to win my money back” and he sits at the table and knew the count was high, not even caring, and sits at this table and puts $2,000 which was the limit on every available circle and let it go for a few minutes and was raiding this table.

That is, until someone walked up and said, excuse me sir, you have to leave. So he got blacklisted out of the Hard Rock. Just stupidity. He was a little bit drunk and shouldn’t have been playing but he wasn’t being subtle about it. That’s just it”¦.getting a little careless. Maybe you do need a Laurence Fishburne around every once in a while keeping your head on straight.

Quick Stop Thingamabobs: 3/28/2008

Filed under: Thingamabobs — UncaScroogeMcD @ 3:15 am

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The web. It’s a big place, full of plenty of distractions ““ some funny, some informative, some ludicrous, some disturbing, some inane, some profound. Each and every weekday, we present links to a few of our favorite finds…

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  • Paul and Storm – Randy Newman Theme Songs… (Thingamabob)

March 27, 2008

Paul and Storm / Jonathan Coulton – Show Review

Filed under: Widge Goes Off — widge @ 10:03 pm

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3/22/08 – Variety Playhouse, Atlanta

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Photo by Aaron Haley, not from this show though. From another show. But they still basically look like this. Honest. Source.

I was at the show last year when Paul and Storm and Jonathan Coulton hit Atlanta for the first time. It was pretty much a packed house at a smaller club called the Five Spot, which was an excellent venue, seeing as how you couldn’t be more than fifty feet from the stage, it seems.

The success of that show brought them back to a larger venue, the Variety Playhouse, and from what I could tell, they filled more than 2/3 of the seats. This will no doubt increase on their next visit: during a show of hands as to who had seen them at the previous show, enough people raised their hands that I swear the entire audience from that first show came back and brought friends. So by that math, within four years time, and given a show every six months, a Paul and Storm/Coulton show will be on a scale that even Hotblack Desiato would find impressive.

Paul and Storm and Coulton (which is this close to sounding like a demented law firm) make for a great team. Coulton’s songs have a surprising amount of sadness in them. Not to sound like one of those over-analyzing pricks who try to ruin everything, but I mean, damn, “Shop Vac,” for all of its bouncy fun, is about two profoundly miserable people who bought into what they figured was the American dream only to get to their destination and say, “Um.” I mean, honestly, “You can cry and I probably won’t hear you because it’s loud with the shop vac on.” We laugh at the song but we also understand where the characters are coming from. Perhaps a little too well.

Some songs stay at that level of almost what we would call morbid whimsy, but some start off with a great profound message and then veer into the profoundly silly. “The Future Soon” is a geek revenge anthem that goes from the standard geek alienation to dreaming about the future and when we’ll be able to change ourselves however we want to”¦killer robots stomping over mankind. Is there a single man in that audience who wasn’t nodding on some level and thinking, “See, Laura, this was all your fucking fault.”

That’s not to say Coulton is a somber individual. Far from it. He’s a crapload of fun, even when jetlagged from flying back from London. And there’s no other musician alive who can have, at the previous gig, people singing along perfectly with a song called “Mandelbrot Set.” This time around, two young ladies got up and spontaneously danced up towards the stage left side of the house.

Yes – dancing to songs about fractals. People wearing animated pong shirts and the animated reacting-to-sound-levels shirts and distracting the musicians (where, at any other gig, they would have asked politely, would you please turn that shit off). The guy with the animated sound shirt was using the light of it to sign Paul and Storm’s mailing list signup. Coulton can get a laugh at a line about a “taxonomical hit and run.” Or “Laugh it up, vertebrates.” A song about Pluto and Charon (the planets, mind you) is actually an excellent love ballad and goes over perfectly with the crowd. Welcome to the audience for one of these shows.

Update: Well, somebody had posted a song from this show, but then they had to go and freaking remove it. Weasels. Here’s something from another show that makes me feel fan-fucking-tastic.

Here they are now. Doing that singing thing.

What was I saying? Oh yes, teamwork. You see, Coulton is great, but for a “nerd” musician, his songs are surprisingly deep. Paul and Storm make a great counter to that.

Now – before I get anybody pissed off at me, I’m not saying Paul and Storm crank out nothing but fluff. But they are a Comedy with a capital C duo, and they know what’s funny. Putting Bob Dylan down a well is funny. Jingles about kitty litter are funny. References to “Storm Juice” are funny. Sea chanties that inspire the audience to bring along a visual aid (letters spelling out ARRR! – and yes, somebody was holding up an exclamation point). That’s pretty goddamn funny.

So together they’re”¦well, they’re the Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups of nerdcore music. You got your peanut butter in my”¦wait, I don’t have to explain that reference with this crowd. Anyway.

(Although for future reference, folks: you missed a golden opportunity to turn the damn ARRR! around to make RRRA! for “Re: Your Brains.” I mean, come on.)

Paul and Storm actually open with a song called “Opening Band” which caused a pantystorm to erupt from the audience. The line is “And, sad to say, as of today, no panties have been thrown,” which was quickly updated to be “eleven panties.” (Atlanta now holds the record.) They play with the audience well, and get lots of response to songs like “Nun Fight” (well, it’s a gregorian chant, but that counts).

They also played a song I hadn’t heard live before, called “A Better Version of You.” This song relates the story of parents breaking it to their five year old son that he’s going to be a big brother soon. “Thanks to the five years we’ve had you to practice on/ Now we know what not to do”¦ Can you imagine the things he’ll achieve/ As a doctor or lawyer or Indian chief?”

For the record, my younger brother is five years younger and an extremely successful lawyer. Me? I write for websites like this. Conferring with Paul and Storm after their set, I learned that they are both younger siblings. And for writing that song, they are also both bastards. And I cried myself to sleep. I hope they’re happy.

The high point of the evening was “Soft Rocked,” where Paul and Storm (who take the stage with Coulton to provide back up vocals and other shenanigans) were doing vocals and also acting as horn section. Now, I can’t tell if this was staged or not, or planned, but Storm hijacked the song. Suddenly, the song became “Tequila Sunrise.” I don’t think it was planned, or if so, what followed certainly was not, as Paul and Storm dragged Coulton laughing through a medley of hits, including “Blue Bayou,” “Hey Jude” and finally finishing up with “Stairway to Heaven.” They never even made it back to the original song. It might be the funniest thing I’ve seen so far this year.

Seeing the three of them perform is an absolute hoot. It’s no wonder that everybody (or seemingly so) came back for the second Atlanta show. They are having a blast on stage and it’s infectious. There’s nothing like the feeling of having a huge sing along, in a room full of geeks, of “Sweet Caroline.” Where else can that happen? No place else.

If they’re coming to your town, you do yourself a disservice by not going. Paul and Storm’s website is here. Give them love. Jonathan Coulton’s website is here. He needs love too. Their tour schedules are here and here respectively. Tell them we said hi.

Widgett Walls is the chief cook and bottle washer for Needcoffee.com. He’s also the author of Mystics on the Road to Vanishing Point and Magnificent Desolation. His personal blog is at WidgettWalls.com, which he updates when he feels like it. He lives and works in Atlanta, Georgia. He hardly ever sleeps.

March 26, 2008

Cabin Fever #18: Use Your Delusion II

Filed under: Cabin Fever — UncaScroogeMcD @ 7:44 pm

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cabin.jpgOh no! Just when you thought it was safe to hang out at the Quick Stop…

Cabin Fever (hosted by the twisted souls Brian Fitzpatrick and Aaron Poole) is the result of having too much time on your hands and access to your local community radio station.

Over the course of an hour, they manage to trawl the depths of good taste, plus throw some music in. How much more could you want from a podcast?… Quality? Oh… we didn’t think of that.

Enjoy! And we hope our cross Atlantic friends can understand the Irish accent 😉

Hugs and Kisses,
Aaron P. + Rev. Fitzy

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CABIN FEVER #18: Use Your Delusion II – As if his abandonment issues weren’t bad enough, Brian was left to fend for himself this week. And so, along with guest-host Shona Conway, he went out the night before in order to drown his sorrows. The following 40-minutes are a result of their shared hangovers. Expect bile to be spat about sexuality, nakedness, transsexualism, novelty panties, fight-starting lesbians and fish tacos. Also, there’s a belt of something awkward in some poor unfortunate’s hair for good measure.

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The Fred Hembeck Show: Episode 104 – It’s All Relative

Filed under: The Fred Hembeck Show — UncaScroogeMcD @ 12:07 am

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If you’re at all interested in reading the confessional piece that put this whole set of events into motion, may I point you towards “The Secret Origin of Fred Hembeck”!!

Now, about those links mentioned above. If you want to know more about the (still) impending Image Comics’ publication, The Nearly Complete Essential Hembeck Archives Omnibus – including how to get either a simple autographed copy or one with my signature AND a custom drawing!- just use that link! And as always, check out my blog, Fred Sez, or my whole gosh darn website, Hembeck.com!! And before you know it, we’ll see you all back here at the Quick Stop bistro!

Copyright 2008 Fred Hembeck

Cabin Fever #17: Use Your Delusion I

Filed under: Cabin Fever — UncaScroogeMcD @ 12:05 am

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cabin.jpgOh no! Just when you thought it was safe to hang out at the Quick Stop…

Cabin Fever (hosted by the twisted souls Brian Fitzpatrick and Aaron Poole) is the result of having too much time on your hands and access to your local community radio station.

Over the course of an hour, they manage to trawl the depths of good taste, plus throw some music in. How much more could you want from a podcast?… Quality? Oh… we didn’t think of that.

Enjoy! And we hope our cross Atlantic friends can understand the Irish accent 😉

Hugs and Kisses,
Aaron P. + Rev. Fitzy

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CABIN FEVER #17: Use Your Delusion I – Aaron arrives in Texas and decides to take the opportunity by the hairy ones and do a show sans-Brian. Old friends of the show, The Tastydactyls, hang out with some of their buddies and things get a little messy. There’s talk of state-shaped breakfast, bear suits, and the ability to hypnotize free money out of shops. Despite the fact that we had several musicians in the studio, we have a song from guys who weren’t there – Veloura. Keep an ear out for another Cabin Fever competition to win a free CD and come back real soon for Brian’s response to Aaron’s absence.

[CONTENT WARNING]: Explicit contents! We say every naughty word you can think of. You have been warned!

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Toy Box: Harvey Dent In Your Town – Or At Least Mine

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Back in the good old days, politicians traveled the country to drum up support. These trips, often by train and then later by bus, were the ideal opportunity to drum up grass roots support. When television and the Internet came along, much of the value was lost, although politicians still rack up the frequent flyer miles.

So how do you add some spicy marketing to a new movie today? Why not combine the old time thrill of the traveling politician with the current Internet viral marketing process? That’s what Warner Brothers has done for the new Batman flick – The Dark Knight. Harvey Dent is in this second film in the current franchise, played by always smooth and political Aaron Eckhart. To help promote the film, they put together a campaign for Harvey, which is supported by a very well done website at isupportharveydent.com. For one week or so, the ‘Dentmobile’ traveled across the U.S., stopping in various towns (especially college towns) to hand out t-shirts, bumper stickers, and other goodies so that you can show your support for the DA of Gotham City and his fight to take back the city.

I live in Ann Arbor, Michigan, a town blessed by not one but TWO large universities. You couldn’t get a town more ripe for this sort of nerdfest, and the promoters knew it, scheduling three separate stops around town. At 11am, I headed over to the Briarwood Mall, the first stop on their route around the city. Now, while Warner Brothers knew AA was a town to hit, apparently the Briarwood Mall didn’t see the value. They booted them off the property, but the Dentmobile found a home in the furniture store parking lot connected to the Mall parking lot anyway.

Being the intrepid reporter that I’m not, I managed to forget my camera. However, a fellow Dent supporter named Daniel Pearson was kind enough to take some exceptional shots and allow me to use them. Thanks, Daniel!

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Once they had the logistics worked out, the folks in the van started setting up and handing out goodies. There was the usual stickers, buttons, signs, and t-shirts, and they even had the t-shirts in multiple sizes, rather than the usual “I got any size you want as long as it’s XL” routine.

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A quick word about the weather – we were freezing our asses off. March in Michigan is a weird month. The weather varies wildly, with unseasonable warm and unseasonably cold days more common than average temperature days. Unfortunately for us Michiganders, the whole month has been unseasonably cold, with no real break. Last Friday, when temps in the 50’s wouldn’t have been unusual, it was closer to 30 with a nasty wind chill. Not really weather for standing out in the parking lot in your new free t-shirt.

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Just to keep things lively, a few of the Joker’s supporters showed up as well, all carrying protest signs of their own. My favorite was “Dent is Two Faced”, but they were all amuzing in their own right.

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Both the Dentmobile folks and the Joker supporters did a fine job remaining in character, even partaking in a bit of the playful banter. Earlier the Brinks truck was making the rounds at the mall, but unfortunately the Joker henchmen weren’t there at the same time. Brink’s guards carting large sacks of money out of the building while guys wearing white covers over their faces cavorted around them would have made for a potentially amusing situation.

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The Dentmobile guys rallied people to show their support, waving their signs as cars went by. Okay, so a mall parking lot on a Friday morning isn’t exactly Grand Central Station, but they managed to get a few honks.

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They also had us signing petitions, and some of the folks represented larger groups who had already signed petitions that they were delivering. All in the name of taking back Gotham City! They didn’t want to discuss the vigilante Batman…

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All in all, it seemed like a relative success. I got a free t-shirt, as well as a nifty sign to hang in my office. Sure, it makes absolutely no real sense – why would a guy running for DA in some city be traveling the country, when your vote doesn’t count? – but they aren’t trying to get votes, they’re trying to get ticket sales. And who knows, perhaps Dent and his running for office has far more to do with the actual plot of the film than we realize now. I know I’ll be there on opening day…but being the Bat-whore I am, I didn’t really need a free t-shirt to convince me to do that.

Since you never know how these things might turn out, I made sure I smoozed up the Joker henchmen as well…

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So remember, believe in Harvey Dent! He’s going to take back Gotham City…or at least help Warner Brothers make a hundred million bucks or so.

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