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SModcast 68

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Your TextSModcast is the meandering palaver of a pair of dudes whose voices are so dull, they don’t deserve to be on the radio (and, hence, aren’t). Kevin Smith and Scott Mosier are SModcast.The best thing about SModcast? It don’t cost nothing.

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SModcast 68: The Talking Cure, Pt. 1 –

In which our heroes ramble about what went wrong.

[CONTENT WARNING] SModcast features harsh language and even harsher notions of propriety. Listener discretion is advised.

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290 responses to “SModcast 68”

  1. Tom Capps Avatar
    Tom Capps

    don’t let the bastards get you down.

  2. Matt S. Avatar
    Matt S.

    Man, this is the first Smodcast where I really wanted to listen to it again immediately after the first run-thru. I really hope that we can find out why the Zack and Miri commentary wasn’t released. I feel secure in stating that the overall gross would’ve been higher at this point if that was released. Hopefully, the Weinstein Company isn’t to blame for this.

  3. David Avatar
    David

    Kevin is the MAN. Generations of stoners will be loving his movies long after he is dead. Everyone talks about Mallrats like it was some theatrical flop, but in my opinion it’s one of his best movies. The Brody character alone made that movie better that the fucking pig swill being put out by most comedy writers today. Kevin’s movies appeal to his fans, screw the rest of the world. P.S. My wife and I watched Z+M then went home and had hot sex, thanks Kevin!

  4. Ted Avatar
    Ted

    I bet David’s hot sex was funnier than Zach and Miri Make a Porno.

  5. BRETTALS Avatar
    BRETTALS

    funny shit guys,just as i was losing faith in podcasts

  6. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Glad to see Smodcast back.

    I like Zack & Miri, but nearly didn’t see it because of Seth Rogen. That guy has a certain audience for his type of low-brow humour and Kevin always has another higher brow level to his humour.

    Imo, that’s what killed the opening. That its two incompatible type of humour. I liked the movie, but I would have like it better with Ben Affleck, or even and unknown in the lead.

    And please stop hating on Jersey Girl in the Smodcasts, its my 2nd favourite Smith/Mosier film after Chasing Amy. That movie is excellent, with unstanding performances and a great story.

    Good to hear you back. Great podcast 🙂

    Cheers,
    Simon.

  7. Cassandra Avatar
    Cassandra

    I hope they don’t turn their next few Smodcasts into a multi-part saga about why the movie didn’t do as well as it should have. It’s pretty obvious that somebody messed up big time on the promotional and/or distribution side of things. Considering that they made a wide release feature film about making a porno with the word porno in the title it’s not exactly surprising that something like that would happen. They should consider themselves lucky that some crackpot didn’t take a shot at them like happened to Larry Flynt because that is how messed up and repressed people are about sex in this country. Why the geniuses who kind of have reinvented modern comedy (Apatow makes Smith-esque films, not the other fucking way ’round, if anybody is copying anybody!) didn’t expect a screw up of this type due to people freaking out about the nature of Zack and Mimi is beyond me. Personally I was half expecting a boycotting or banning shit storm that would have made the controversy over Dogma seem minor in comparison.

    On a lighter note, nothing is funnier that listening to Kevin and Scott crack up about things that aren’t even all that funny in and of themselves just because of being high. Thank the Gods that the Smodcasts are back.

  8. Dmitriy Avatar
    Dmitriy

    Damn, I guess I was one of the few who contributed the $2.2 million opening day. I was also very disappointed by the box office, but now that it’s more in the past (sort of), I’m eager to hear the factors that you think let this happen.

  9. ryan fuckin' kelley Avatar
    ryan fuckin’ kelley

    One word to explain why Zack and Miri didn’t do that well: ECONOMY. I couldn’t afford to see it until the second week it was open. Most people I know are living paycheck to paycheck, so when they do go see a movie it has to be well worth it. The only problem with that is, most people go see films on the big screen for the cinematical experiance. Kevin Smith flicks tend to not be all that cinematical, to be that visual, ya know? So, I think that had a lot to do with it. Just wait til it comes out on dvd, that fuckin’ movie is gonna be huge on dvd.

  10. ryan loves salad tossing Avatar
    ryan loves salad tossing

    You guys need a hug

  11. Ikaika Avatar
    Ikaika

    F yeah!! New Smod!! And I can read all the comments!!

  12. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Hey guys. Sorry to hear your flick didn’t do as well as you hoped. I saw it and thought it was good shit. Why the rest of the world didn’t I don’t think I’ll ever know. I work in film myself so i know a bit of the journey you were on. Hope you guys recover quick and keep making your amazing original movies.

    Rock on guys

  13. Bored of this Avatar
    Bored of this

    You all need to stop kissing Smith’s ass. Zack & Miri was not funny, Threevening with Kevin Smith was not funny, and this was one of the worst SMods yet.

  14. somaholidays Avatar
    somaholidays

    Loved it. Was waiting all month… started having Smod withdrawal. Then finally, there it was.

    I actually kinda fully enjoyed slightly depressed, completely stoned, analytical, having-a-good-laugh smod. Just wish I was partaking also.

    Love you guys. I think you’re awesome.

  15. Erin Smith Avatar
    Erin Smith

    I came from Tucson Arizona to New Jersey to see Kevin at the Q&A in Red Bank. I could tell his demeanor was different judging by the other Q&A’s. I feel bad he is disappointed. He and Scott deserve to do well. It is not ass kissing to say that. If you are a fan of the Smith movies, visit the site or listen to Smodcast then you feel the same. These are great guy’s and if you don’t agree why even make a comment or visit this site? Z&M was as a great watch and Kevin, Scott and the rest deserve every penny it makes!

  16. Kendra Avatar
    Kendra

    I Agree with Simon!
    I am over Seth.

  17. Bobby Avatar
    Bobby

    So exactly how bad of a movie or a SModcast do these guys have to make before some of you Smith-ites will say, “Wow, NOT good”?

    Seems to me Kevin could film himself shitting on a piece of bread and people would be praising it and saying, “Awesome! Don’t worry the masses will come around.” or “It deserved to make $100 million.”

    There’s nothing wrong with some honesty. Seems to me if more people had shared with Kevin that Zach and Miri wasn’t all that funny in the early stages maybe his movie could have been improved upon.

  18. Buggie Avatar
    Buggie

    In response to “Kevin could film himself shitting on a piece of bread” … this would be a good film if done right, because it would be fresh, original, filled with lively dialogue and sincere. It is the masses of romantic sloshy cheese that is layered over the top of Z&M that had my stomach turning. Nothing wrong with mixing romance and porn, but not if the romance is cut and paste direct from a bad John Hughes flick.

  19. Geans Avatar
    Geans

    Mosier doing voices (any kind of voices)…it doesn’t get much better.

  20. SteveDave Avatar
    SteveDave

    I’m a big big fan of your work but i have to be honest i really didn’t care for Zack and Miri. The first reel was really funny but the second and third were terrible. The funniest thing about this movie was Justin Long. I just wish you guys went a different way with this one…

  21. SmithFan Avatar
    SmithFan

    Kevin……yeesh. Dude, your movie was horribly marketed (no trailer until literally the month of release, the commercials were very un-funny and made the movie look stupid….

    Seriously, where was the trailer during Pineapple Express? Tropic Thunder? Instead it doesn’t show till October and that pretty much went with the entire marketing……very last-minute, very un-funny.

    Your movie is actually the 4th highest-grossing Weinstin Co film of all time…do you realize that?

    Not to say it did well but clearly you expected a bit much. The studio that had Grindhouse flop (Bruce Willis? Etc. Etc. Etc.) is not capable of releasing a 100 mil+ film and that’s just the way it is. Opening it up on Halloween was the kiss of death. Not a good move.

    That said, I loved the movie and clearly moviegoers did too since it held up very well over the weeks. It was an excellent movie but it was poorly marketed and that’s unfortunate. Yes the poster was banned but the poster shouldn’t have been released the MONTH the film opened…it should have been released months beforehand and therefore when it was banned there would have been time to come up with an adequate replacement.

    Seriously, man…..it was marketed incorrectly. Judd Apatow’s next film’s already being promoted online…not opening till next summer. Nobody had heard of your movie until the month of its release. That’s unfortunately the way it is but don’t get yourself so down…..Changeling grossed a similar amount to Zack and Miri and it cost 20 million more to make and was directed by Clint Eastwood!

    Sometimes marketing doesn’t connect with audiences and that’s the way it is. Nothing to get depressed about, you broke even, you have your highest-grossing film.

  22. Ikaika Avatar
    Ikaika

    I agree with smithfan, I didn’t realize the movie came out on Halloween until you guys mentioned it on Smod the weekend before. A sad fact is that no one knows a good flick until they actually go out and see it. Millions of suckers get duped into shelling out for lame movies like Blair Witch Project. Good marketing tactics seem to go a long way.

    Personally though, I don’t think it was your best. I’ve laughed way harder listening to smodcast, you guys could totally charge for it. Smodcast movie!!!!!!!

    And stop smokin’ pot Kev. Jesus wouldn’t like it.

  23. Little Rascals Avatar
    Little Rascals

    OMFG A NEW SMODCAST

  24. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    Wow.

    First of all, it would be a lot of help, for us non film geeks, to be able to put 2.2 million in context. How did Star Wars open? Casablanca? Or, like, Jersey Girl?

    Second of all, I loved the flick. I bet 99% of your fans did. Why didn’t it do well? In a country where “Dancing With The Stars” is a hit tv show? Hell, I don’t know. We have no taste?

    Third of all, you guys are deeply talented and brilliant in so many ways. Whatever project you guys come up with, we will be here.

    Peace.

  25. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Just to add to Geans post: The Scott Mosier 30 min short-movie. Where he plays every character with different accents and costumes. Directed by Kevin and shown a la “Dr. Horrible’s sing a long blog”.

    Please.

    Cheers,
    Simon.

  26. qwer Avatar
    qwer

    Ya its sad that what they resort to now is making a financial hit. I mean the way they talk about the movie (ie having a hit money making star) makes them sound more like business investors than…in a word, artists. I agree with some of you that after hearing this I kind of lost some respect for him as a director/writer. Its depressing to hear of him sitting around the opening weekend waiting anxiously for the boxoffice numbers. Sorry to say but he is a sell out. He’s only in the business now to afford his mansion and way of living. I dont think any of us should buy more of his dvds because of this fact, on the contrary, leaving him to realize his faults may help in the long run.

  27. The not so silent Bob Avatar
    The not so silent Bob

    I’ve got to say I would have loved to see a call back to the Viewaskewniverse as well. Even a silhouette of Jay and Bob against the bean-n-gone window. I loved the movie, I do blame the economy and the pseudo holiday. DVD sales will be huge. BRING BACK THE INDIGNANT CANADIAN, I miss him so.

  28. STUDIODYNAMO Avatar
    STUDIODYNAMO

    I’m amazed that guys so smart never picked up on the fact that “PORNO” in the title is a huge problem. I thought that they would wise up and change the title before the publicity started but … no. What woman other that his wife goes to see anything with Porno in the title? So that cuts out a good deal of the female audience and the date crowd. Leaving desperate teen boys and dirty old men.

  29. STUDIODYNAMO Avatar
    STUDIODYNAMO

    And, oh yeah. Never complain about making money because it wasn’t as much as you wanted to make, you petty fucks. that’s real.

  30. I Still Believe Is A Great Song Avatar
    I Still Believe Is A Great Song

    On further recollection… no, I was right.

  31. David Avatar
    David

    It was a funny movie who the fuck cares if it doesn’t have a high gross, you had fun making it and you’re still making money at the end of the day.

  32. Carrie Avatar
    Carrie

    Guys, don’t even worry about it. Becuase of the nature of the film, it didn’t get distributed in a way that would make it easily accessable to everyone. Hell, I had to travel to the Magnolia theater in downtown Dallas to see it, but it was SOOOO worth it! Esp. since they sell alcohol at the Magnolia; it was great to sit there with my Scotch and watch as funny movie. However, Scotch through the nose HURTS!
    This is gonna be huge on DVD. Again, don’t even worry about it. I’ve alredy got my e-mail on Amazon to get a heads up when the release date is ready. PLEASE release a director’s cut!!!!

  33. richard Avatar
    richard

    I just heard the word fontanelle more times in 20 minutes than I had in my whole life. It was beautiful.

  34. Matt Avatar
    Matt

    I loved this smodcast. Fuck the haters; Kevin and Scott talk about what they want to.

  35. Carrie Avatar
    Carrie

    Is it just me, or was Scott totally channeling Father Guido Sarducci during the therapist roll play?

  36. DP Avatar
    DP

    AWESOME! haven’t listened yet, but will tonight! CANT WAIT!

    Alll I want for christmas is new smod… and now I gots it!

    Wooohooo!

  37. Kris Is An Idiot Avatar
    Kris Is An Idiot

    I love it when some foreigner generalizes and insults Americans. Especially someone from the great country of Australia, whose grand contributions to world culture have been Crocodile Dundee, Crocodile Hunter, and nothing.

    And is it me or did “Role Models” actually have a heart and a brain? It got great reviews, and David Wain and Paul Rudd don’t really make crap. Wrong example to use, Kris. Same with “Iron Man”. Smart blockbuster. Time Magazine has it on their top 10 of 2008 over “The Dark Knight”.

    So next time you try to be clever, please watch what you disparage and don’t pick on countries better than yours. Thank you.

  38. Julie Avatar
    Julie

    Hey Guys!
    We’re not real rich. In the pre-kid days, we’d go see every movie you guys made in the Theater. Now with babysitters at $10/hr, we rarely (really, really rarely) go to see anything in the theater. We do plan to see your movie on DVD. Don’t lose heart – maybe your key demographic is in the same position that we are – can’t afford to go see stuff we like in the theater, so we just gotta wait for the DVD. Good luck anyway!!!
    j

  39. Scott Avatar
    Scott

    I don’t think I’d want to hear the commentary track for ZAMMAP right now because it would be two hours about how shit should have gone. Let’s hope Kev can do a fitting track for the DVD/Bluray that points to how great the film truly is. I feel like Phyciatrist Walt needs to tell Kevin to quit fucking crying and get over it. Just kidding, fuck marketing…..seriously, get over it.

  40. deadapostle Avatar
    deadapostle

    There was a lot of great stuff in this Smod. Thank you so much for coming back. This year has been hell in reality, but Smodcast has been something that has helped to brighten it up. Of course, Smodcast brightens it up, flips it over, and does it raw and dirty. Afterward it takes a dump in its sink and calls its sister for some secondary action.

  41. Dr. Know Avatar
    Dr. Know

    My theory? It was the marketing. And by extension, the Weinsteins. Very curious to see if Smith has the balls to bite the hand that signs his checks. Although presumably the company is in trouble already and dropped the ball on QT and RR already, so Smith is at least in good company.

    Someone on AICN commented in a post that Z&MMAP was opening soon and he hadn’t really peeped any ads for it. And I don’t remember Seth and Banks doing a lot of press, either. Be very interested to see if Smith takes it up with the (kinda) biggest comedy star in the country right now.

  42. A Total Cracker Avatar
    A Total Cracker

    This movie is like every other form of entertainment in the world, it made fans and it lost fans. I took two of my residents (im an RA) to it on opening day and we watched as high school musical filled up and only a hand full of people went to Z&M. The two i took had never seen a KS movie and totally fell in love with it, we ended up spenind that whole night and most of the next day watching viewaskew movies, documentaries, and movies starring askew stars. New fans to replace those that didnt appreciate it.

    Anyone have this up on a TORRENT? im on dialup and it keeps dropping connection before i can get it downloaded.

  43. Steve Speaks Avatar
    Steve Speaks

    All this podcast time to whine about Zach and Miri.
    There’s another 90+ minutes of my life wasted…I wasted the first seeing that movie.
    I thought cheeseball romantic comedies like this died in the 80’s.
    The biggest laugh in the movie was how lame it was when they had sex the first time and it was “oh so memorable”.
    Stick to what you know best Kevin because romance isn’t it.

  44. PayToPlay Avatar
    PayToPlay

    Let me preference this by saying that I liked the movie. In general, it was good to see you guys break out into a different place than the Jersey/Silent Bob and Jay world. It wasn’t a great movie but it was good.

    Now listening to this podcast …. Waaaaaaaaa Boo Hoo… Kevin … why don’t you go back into your pot filled haze and have a few more twinkees. Why don’t you grow a pair… Not every movie will be accepted to the masses, no matter what you were told by a few industry insiders. For Christ sakes, you have the word “Porno” in the title… You play to a certain audience.

    The most bold thing that this movie states is that porno is becoming main stream… Still we live a Puritan state of being… especially here in Massachusetts (where there was some controversy with some poster on the MBTA). Whether we like it or not perceptions are everything.

    It was painful to hear you rant like that … and yes you were ranting and bitching about the way things turned out.

    then again … I could turn the podcast off at anytime.

    good luck

  45. Moobys37 Avatar
    Moobys37

    Hey, fuck Steve Speaks.

    That’s all I got

  46. Mark Avatar
    Mark

    Stuck in a hotel in Austria and been off the internet radar – damn thing won’t talk to my ipod, but trip home will be happier for catching the new smod when I hit home turf.

    Thanks and all the best for Christmas chaps…

  47. Trevor Avatar
    Trevor

    Look, I’ve never been one to criticize a SMod. The show’s free and, if there’s a bad episode, you get what you paid for, right? And if you get a good one, then you got something for nothing. Sounds good to me.

    That being said, this is the most frustrating episode I’ve ever listened to. It started out with the two of you guys saying you were going to tell us the story about what happened with the movie. But the whole episode meandered so much that you never got past the opening Friday. There were long digressions in which you were just arguing over what the best metaphor was for everything that happened with the movie. “It’s like an invisible imp–” “No, it’s like you have no legs…”

    You know what it was like? It was like you were trying to get to someplace that you really wanted to get to, but getting there required running through glue. For, like, an hour. That’s what this episode felt like. I love your weed fueled meanderings in most episodes, but I got so frustrated listening to this thing expecting to hear a story that never got told. I was almost yelling at my iPod on the damn train. If you had started out by very quickly telling the whole story and then went back to elaborate on it, it would have been much easier to deal with. Once I realized, towards the end, that you were never going to tell the story, it was much easier to listen to.

    I still look forward to the next episode. Hope you can cover, maybe, the rest of the opening weekend? Or, at the very least, the Saturday after the opening.

  48. kix Avatar
    kix

    I CANT WAIT FOR

    69!!!!!!!!!!

    AND SMODCAST 69 TOO…..

  49. jefforourke Avatar
    jefforourke

    jesus christ, stop fucking whining. you get paid to make movies for a living.

  50. Big Dusty Avatar
    Big Dusty

    Can’t wait to check this out

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