SModcast 68

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SModcast is the meandering palaver of a pair of dudes whose voices are so dull, they don’t deserve to be on the radio (and, hence, aren’t). Kevin Smith and Scott Mosier are SModcast.The best thing about SModcast? It don’t cost nothing.

SModcast 68: The Talking Cure, Pt. 1 –

In which our heroes ramble about what went wrong.

[CONTENT WARNING] SModcast features harsh language and even harsher notions of propriety. Listener discretion is advised.

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290 responses to “SModcast 68”

December 15, 2008

newman

Am I the only one having trouble downloading this? It just wont start downloading!
December 15, 2008

cost

frak yes, don’t think i’ve never been this excited to get a new smod!
December 15, 2008

JohnnyThief

Man, this makes no sense. All the miserable crap they throw up on screen, insanely stupid & condescending, & this is what you go through with such a cool more like Zack & Miri? I’m with Scott, I find myself turning off movies all the time. I almost shot my TV watching ‘War, Inc’,… wow, that was insanely bad. I mean, Jesus Fuck, they’re making Ace Ventura JUNIOR. Someone shoot me.

It’s such a weird time we live in,… every fact of media has been so run over, dumbed down, & castrated, whether music, literature, art,… I mean, it’s so bizarre that we haven’t had a movement of ANYTHING in a decade. It’s unnatural. It’s like the entire consciousness of the country has been stilted. It skipped a generation.

Two illegal wars & sanctioned torture, & not one protest song on the radio. The fix is in.

So if it makes you feel any better, Kevin, everyone in every artistic field is going through the exact same thing. It doesn’t make any sense, when reagan was in office, & we all thought we’d die in a nuclear explosion, art & music were amazing. I don’t think you’re going to see a groundswell of movement in anything until these monopolies crash & burn,… & people really start waking up & living their lives again.

Thanks for being so open & honest, great Smodcast.
December 15, 2008

NocturnalMatt

Dear Mr. Smith, and Mr. Mosier, never disappear on us like that again! Oh yeah, movie kicked ass!
December 15, 2008

NocturnalMatt

Hey Newman, download VLC media player, i got it to work using it. Media Player Classic, and Windows Media Player both failed. Get VLC!
December 15, 2008

DOUBLEYOUUUUU

Hey Scott and Kev fuck all the people who didn’t see it , i love ZAMMAP and I went that seen that shit 2x opening Weekend, I tried to help with Box Office, can’t wait for you guys to redeem yourselves with the next movie 🙂
December 15, 2008

Michael

FUCk YEAh!!!
December 15, 2008

April B.

Wow. . .I think Kev needs to get a little sober. o_o I’m sorry your movie didn’t do as good as you thought it would. I fuckin’ loved it. My dad and I went to go see it we absolutly loved it. I wrote a review for a website and my group of friends really liked it too. I hope everything works out for you Kevin. :]
December 15, 2008

Santeria

wow smodcast comes back…hell yea….and kevin smith is disturbed mildy disturbed …fcuk that hes defintly upset….happy that smodcast is his theropy so we get more smodcassts…funny that kev feels this way cause me and all you guys would b fuckin estatic if we made a movie that did as well as zack and miri..rely liked the movie saw it a couple times…Justin long scene was epic..kev dude me and my boy would b smoking as much pot as you parting wit bitches but def not being emo (dont get upset im jus playing) …im suprised that kevin is upset,,,i dont understand that,,,,wat would b the difference in his life if he did make 100 million…only thing i can think of is that he wants a award….wats u guys think???….Kev keep writing and making movies….the way u like tooo.peace
December 15, 2008

Kim

Sorry to hear you were/are so bummed Kev… But hopefully you’ll be ready to get back on the film making horse after the holidays and make Red State.
December 15, 2008

Santeria

If i ever c scott mosier in real life im gonna ask him 2 do his PARIS HILTON improv. hahaha
December 15, 2008

EchelonAngel

Missed you Kevin! Great to have you back!
December 15, 2008

Dorene

Z&M should have done better in the box office. Sadly it did not generate the right amount of revenue, but that doesn’t make it bad. It went up against 007 & that shallow HSM 2! We as consumers, artists, collectors and folks who support the entertainment industry need to step up and get behind the things we love. Hey, to the guy who pointed out that there are no major art movements in these troubled times…I agree! As an artist it’s very uninspiring, but I’ve realized it’s up to the artists to make it happen. This is my next art show project. And to the Kevin Smiths of the world, please keep doing what you’re doing! It does not go unnoticed. For every desensitized, apathetic person in the world there is one who cares about brand loyalty, awsome movies that reflect our times and who appreciates a director pushing to make a movie without compromising what they want to convey.

P.S. Thanks for the new SMOD! 🙂
December 15, 2008

4DOG

I’m sorry you’re movie didn’t go over as well as you had hoped. BUT it was by far the funniest movie I’ve seen in the past 5 years, everyone I talked to loved the shit out of it and had nothing but good reviews, people didn’t want to go out i guess.
December 15, 2008

Peter J.

Kevin, I wanted to mention: Superman II was recut by Richard Donner. He went back and took out all the silly shit and cut it into the movie it was always intended to be.

Hopefully you fine this, or Ken sees this and let’s you know. Yes, you can get it in blu-ray. Enjoy.
December 15, 2008

Husker

Thought you had died, like a premonition from SMOD 67! Just kidding, glad your back. Glad I wasn’t stoned or would have thought I had gotten lost during the broadcast. Can’t wait for 69! Of course we all can’t wait for 69 so what else is new. Have a great week and enjoy those drinks!
December 15, 2008

Shorty

The Metallica track was called ‘one’. Very cool video, and if I remember rightly the first ‘tallica video ever.
December 15, 2008

Jim

The theater was almost empty when I saw Zack and Miri on opening Friday.

Needless to say, the box office numbers don’t surprise me at all.
December 15, 2008

Goldie

The Right stuff was not a box office success either. But look at it now!
I know the distributors dropped the ball big time on this side of the pond. Critics got no previews, so they couldn’t do reviews! Hard to sell a movie to the general public if you can neither say that its good or bad.

You will be redeemed with DVD sales.
I look forward to the 10 year redux, when you look back and laugh at how you felt about what you consider to be a failure..
December 15, 2008

Yort

ssmmoodd cast fuck yeah it seems like forever since the last one cant wait to here what the guys have to say and dont worry i will catch Z and M in the cinemas when it finally gets down under ( when is that, again )
December 15, 2008

Matt S.

Mxyzptlk is from the 5th Dimension, not the 8th.
December 15, 2008

Kevin C

Dudes!! I was so happy to see a new Smodcast posted!!! And I laughed my ASS off while listening to it. I knew it was going to be long, so I always try listening to it while I’m working…but I never get anything done because I’m rolling on the floor in hysterics!

I’m no expert and I may be wrong on this, but none of your movies were big box office winners, were they? Most of your loyal fan base is too broke to see it in a theatre, but we’d gladly pay for a DVD so we can enjoy it again and again! Zack & Miri was a hilarious movie, and did deserve more than it made, but once the DVD/Blu-Ray hits the shelves you’ll be smiling again!! (and I’ll have by big screen & Blu-Ray by then, WOOT!!)
December 15, 2008

Mara

Whether it was a failure or not, I saw Z&M twice in the same -weekend- because I loved it so much, and I’ve been raving about it to my friends and (over eighteen) co-workers.

And I’ll buy the DVD the first day it’s out. I’m already looking forward to the commentary. So be proud that you made a great movie.
December 15, 2008

edward G.

man you guys a funny as hell. i love SModcast. i love all of kevins movies and both these guys are great in the movie biz.

ZACK AND MIRI MAKE A PORNO WAS BADASS. CANT WAIT FOR THE DVD TO COME OUT. UP THERE WITH CLERKS AND CLERKS 2.

THANK “YOUSE” GUYS
December 15, 2008

Mike

Chin up, drama queen. Your movie made $12 mil more than the Judd Apatow written/produced Walk Hard, and Walk Hard cost over $10 mil more than Zack and Miri. (P.S. Smodcast is back!! W00t!!!)
December 15, 2008

DedJezter

Kevin,

FTLT here. Let me say that I and four of my friends all saw Z&MMaP 4 times. Twice opening night and the theater was packed.. I am sure some of the others from here did the same. I don’t understand what happened either. I guess some of your fans just don’t give a Frak. As seen in the comments from last Smods (#67)section.

Plus we all know your a Merch whore, so you’ll make it up on the back end. I already have my Zombies Jersey.

Thats
Jay and Silent Bobs Secret Stash, Red Bank, New Jersey
and
Jay and Silent Bobs Secret Stash, Los Angeles, California inside Lazer Blazer.
or
http://jayandsilentbob.com
Buy Stuff Bitches………. Now!!!!!!!!
December 16, 2008

Greg

New smodcast on my first day of winter workfest before i go back to school!!!
December 16, 2008

Daniel

Good to have Smodcast back, the last 20 minutes were especially enjoyable. I had the pleasure of seeing Johnny Got His Gun on tv one time, that is one incredible film.

I saw Z & M Make a Porno and thought it was great. Looking forward to the dvd and hopefully the commentary track.

I’ve got plans over the next while to rent Roadhouse to hear the commentary track you guys did for it. Should be a real treat.
December 16, 2008

gillian

im crying tears of joy.
December 16, 2008

Kobrakai NYC

The first half of this SMOD was the best ever, then out came the weed and the topic flew out the window. I believe the movie flopped because the trailer stunk and the stick figure poster was even worse. Nobody knows who Elizabeth Banks is by name, and they only know Seth Rogan by face. The poster & trailer only spoke to us, not the general ticket buying public. Role Models and Four X-mas had trailers with big gags for the masses, and Zack & M. didn’t.

In late October I was at a bar on the UWS of Manhattan watching football. The games were being shown on flat screens with no sound. The crowd continuously laughed at Stifler getting smacked in the face by the little kid in Role Models, Vince Vaughn getting beat up in his living room or Reece W. getting thrown up on in the 4 X-mas trailer. The Zack trailer was met with quiet confusion. What was the big moment(s) in the trailer to grab a non die hard? An 80’s porn star popping a bubble? It was too inside of a trailer & marketing campaign. Anyway, that’s my take.

I saw the movie opening day and loved it, but it was not marketed properly at all. I think Kev was going to say that with the Egg analogy before he got stoned. Hang in there guys. At least you didn’t flop with a turkey…..the movie was great.
December 16, 2008

Jamo

The Internet is a happy place again!
December 16, 2008

G

amazing how k can go on forever about nothing and make it sound interesting
respec
December 16, 2008

Buggie

There was a stack of crap happening around October 31st that made it a difficult time to release a film like Zack and Miri – economic downturn, a monumental election, two or three huuuuge films with very clear markets – I am sorry Z&M got caught in the tidal wave, but I look forward to see the stronger, brighter, smarter, more resiliant KS creative venture that rises from these ashes. If this smod is anything to go by, it will be awesome …
December 16, 2008

alex

Funny how Kevin complains about being around drunk people yet has gotten stoned on SModcast twice, both times being the only person to do so. Lay off the weed, man. At least while you’re recording.
December 16, 2008

tim

OMG I DIDNT CHECK IT LAST NIGHT!! been so long ive grown used to not checking missed this sooooooooo much love you kev and scott
December 16, 2008

michelle

glad to hear a new smod. isay that if kevin wants to get high and be upset, it’s his right. dont call him a drama queen– its heartbreaking when something you do for someone else is not loved like you’d hoped. you put so much of yourself into something, and its quite a buzzkill to hear negative reactions. that being said, i find it strange that all of you seem to think that it was immediatly the studio who is to blame. im not saying that is incorrect, however, my mind immediatly went to the actors. hmmmm. who knows. we will find out next week. liked the movie quite a bit– i still give the edge to chasing amy as my fav, but good nonetheless. and for those of you that say it needed jay and bob, i think it was refreshing to see something that was an independent thought from the other movies. Personally, i cant wait for red state. i dont know anything more than anyone else, but it seems from what we’ve heard that is certainly going to be something different. yes we may fall into love with and actor, filmmaker, etc. for what their staples are but it can really be amazing when they go a different way. i mean look at say jim carrey’s dramatic roles versus his comedic. i was a little trepidacious to try those out, but look at the wonder it garnered me. he was amazing. so dont give them shit for trying something a little different. i mean who wants to go to work and do the same thing everyday? a “cubicle” of a movie can get stale, no? k. thats enough shit from me.
December 16, 2008

Alex D.

@alex

he’s gotten high on wayyy more than 2 smods, you can hear it from his voice and the way he talks,listen to the early stuff then listen from 57 and up and you can tell he’s high on a bunch of em
December 16, 2008

Steve

If I had to discuss with complete, brutal honesty how something I had spent a year of my life on went terribly, I would want to be high too. Glad to see Smodcast functioning as a kind of cathartic therapy. Mosier totally has a career as a shrink if he wants a break from producing. Zack and Miri was fucking hilarious guys, keep up the good work. Roll on Red State.
December 16, 2008

Arthur

How amused I am to see all the “Fuck Kevin!”, “I’ll never buy your shit again”, etc crowd trying to bow back down and lick on his nutsac now that Smodcast is back. You people must believe Kevin to be entirely stupid.
December 16, 2008

Prison break just turned into a spiderman plot.

Kevin, could we be seeing Clerks 3? in which Dante and Randal find them selves Lost in their lives once again, this time because their Suger mama, (played by seth rogan) fails to earn them a shit load of money, and spend ten years trying to recover, sending the quick stop into bankruptcy.

we could call it Clerks 3: what the fuck happened?

My guess is we see this movie before we see red state.
Which is a shame, because I’d love to see it. But I’d also like to see another view askew some day. thank god for the end of SmodFast.
December 16, 2008

Rebecca

Thank you! I have been missing Smodcast. Let me just say that I saw Zack and Miri the second week of release and the theater was packed and everyone was laughing! We had a great time and I loved the movie.
December 16, 2008

Sabrina

Hey ! I have to precise that i am from Canada, Montreal! I am A girl and 18 , i also concinder my self okay ( not hot but cute all to say i am not a girl you would think that lisen to smodcats)! I have been lisening to all of them since last year you guys are so awesome. I sometime lisen to it at college while i am doing home work and sometimes i just giggle and people around me looks at as if i was crazy! Opps ! t hi hi hi hi! I saw all your movie which no matter what people think about it is So Awesome! I just wanted to tell you one of my main reason i want to be a film maker its because of you guys. So thanks alot !! Keep up the awesome work cause you rock ! ( Oh kevin i understand your fear for the ocean! I so terrified of lakes, oceans and what ever waters that can have a living creature in it!)
Sabrina from Montreal, Canada !
December 16, 2008

Glasgow Gal

The movie was not a flop!!!! I took 4 of my friends who have never watched a Kev film in their lives to see it and they all loved it! I have to say though the marketing over here in scotland left a lot to be desired! A couple of crappy bus ads and tv spots than ran for less than 10 secs! The halloween excuse doesnt really count for us as it was released a few weeks later over here. Nevertheless I though the movie was fantastic and everyone that i have spoken to who has seen it thought it was fantastic and i will be eagerly anticipating the DVD release and will probs buy several copies (DVD, BluRay, Download for iPod etc..)

So keep your chins up and hold your heads high! The movie rocked and it will stand the test of time. How many ppl do you think are still gonna be watchin HSM in 5-10 years time eh?

Peace out xx
December 16, 2008

Klinger

yeah, my mind went to the actors, too….but only to make
a joke about it on this board…”there’s an elephant in the room…” Kevin said, and I was like “yes! Damn Craig Robinson! You totally f*cked the movie up!”

I kid, of course, and I’d be totally stunned if Kevin blamed any of the actors. That would be insane.

Unless there’s some aspect of things that we don’t know (and, man, am I ever in suspense! Counting the days ’til part 2!)…it seems clear that it wasn’t advertised well.

Here’s my take on it..and I’m in Canada, not the States, so I could be way off. But here, all the ads took the word “Porno” out and just called it ‘Zack and Miri’. Even the late-night ads!! To me, that screwed the intrigue of the title (even my Dad, who is not a movie guy at all, somehow heard about the controversy of the title!

I think that title would’ve drawn people in, not turned ’em away!

Number two is the commercials themselves, which were not good. They didn’t sell the movie. I mean, we fans were
going to go to this flick regardless, but I was stunned at how bad the commercials were. They didn’t show Seth proposing to Miri, saying “Will you have sex on camera with me for money?”

The ads just didn’t sell the concept. Anyway, that’s my guess as to what the Colossal Blunder was.

Hopefully they’ll be allowed to talk about it next time, and won’t be shut down by the powers that be!
December 16, 2008

Klinger

sorry to ramble so long, there:

one other thing…

Kev, Scott and Ken

This was an EPIC Smodcast! From the great theme song (Ken is turning me into a huge Kinks fan!) to the mystery of what went wrong, the emotion, the more serious side of both Kev and Scott…just awesome. Thanks a ton for coming back to us!

The movie did NOT bomb…it broke even, the dvd will rock and make more money, and Kev and Scott will make more movies.

All will be well!

Here’s wishing you the bluest sky…
December 16, 2008

Klinger

…okay, last one, i promise…

“elephant in the room that nobody’s talking about…” just want to be clear that I wasn’t cracking on Craig Robinson’s size or something….just picked a name. I could’ve picked Traci Lords. Just in case it came off mean.

Though Mr. Mewes’ piece could be the elephant in the room, come to think of it…
December 16, 2008

PaPiTai

Hey bro, to every Clerks there’s a Mallrats and to every Mallrats there’s a Chasing Amy… If you want to see it that way, you’ve been down and came back up… I love everything you do though, so I’m a little biased. If it makes you feel better:

Let’s go kill Ned down the street!
December 16, 2008

Taylor

Jerry Seinfeld uses the exact same analogy about carefully exchanging an egg on the Seinfeld season 6 DVD. Knowing virtually nothing about the business myself, I found it fascinating that two professionals would use identical metaphors to describe their work.
December 16, 2008

Adrienne

There are 2 parts to this?

I understand you’re probably a bit down over the numbers.
It was probably not advertised enough? Maybe don’t do romantic-comedies anymore? They tend to be a tad corny. Hope there wont be a part 3 to the sad stuff and that you don’t fall into alcoholism, getting done up the choccy starfish in a back alley, sobbing….Well I liked the flick.

Smile, you’ve a great job.

Apathetic Canadian
December 16, 2008

Marcus R.

Happy days are here again!!

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