SModcast 68

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SModcast is the meandering palaver of a pair of dudes whose voices are so dull, they don’t deserve to be on the radio (and, hence, aren’t). Kevin Smith and Scott Mosier are SModcast.The best thing about SModcast? It don’t cost nothing.

SModcast 68: The Talking Cure, Pt. 1 –

In which our heroes ramble about what went wrong.

[CONTENT WARNING] SModcast features harsh language and even harsher notions of propriety. Listener discretion is advised.

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290 responses to “SModcast 68”

December 15, 2008

iscream22

I agree, the DVD sales of Zack and Miri will rock the house. Im making sure I PURCHASE it the first day its out
December 15, 2008

mighyhorse

kevin deboyer you are not helping. thank god for smod.
December 15, 2008

mighyhorse

god bless smod
December 15, 2008

Camm

All the dicks who felt they were owed something and acted like jerks should have been made to apologize before they were allowed to download this.
December 15, 2008

Cam D

Saw Zack and Miri in theaters.
Will buy the DVD.

Nice solid effort in the Return of the SMod.

Thanks Gents!
December 15, 2008

Dax

holy crap…what did you guys think..it was gonna beat the dark knight…you have been making dick and fart joke movies for over ten years..dont get me wrong i love your shit..i always will..the dvds will probably make it more profitable..no need to kill yourself kevin..sounded like scott in the begining was like thinking like “will you just stop your fucking crying already and get to the point”…the movie is not bad..its a good movie…in my gut i have this feeling that if the word Porno wasnt in the title..it might have done better..just keep doing what you do best and all will be good with the world.
December 15, 2008

Josh

Thanks for the new cast, can’t wait to hear it.
December 15, 2008

BÂ²

I wonder how many people out there (not the super-fans, of course) deliberately avoid seeing Kevin Smith movies in the theater, because they know the eventual DVD release will not only include extra scenes — and may well be an unrated director’s cut — and kickass extras? The wife and I saw it in the theater, but the thought of waiting did cross my mind.

Anyway, I still think Kevin needs to decide what it is he wants as a filmmaker. If he wants the brass ring of mainstream commercial success, he needs to make some tough decisions — stop casting his non-actor friends/wife in key roles, get a co-writer to curb some of his funny but non-commercial quirks.

If he wants to stay true to his idiosyncratic vision, he has to accept that he’s going to be a relatively fringe filmmaker for the foreseeable future. He isn’t going to be
Apatow, and shouldn’t try to be. He should give up all of his mainstream ambitions — which just water down his movies anyway — and just start releasing his films direct-to-disc or online. Bypass the studios entirely. I’d personally rather have that Kevin Smith than some generic family-friendly version of Kevin Smith.
December 15, 2008

Erebos

Nice

I was waiting
December 15, 2008

peter J.

Riight on . . .Le’s GO!!
December 15, 2008

Moobys37

Thanks, guys! I’m sure this message will get lost in the barrage of other thanks, but what the fuck; we’re greatfulf fans
December 15, 2008

jabba

Kevin,
What happened to the ZaMcast? Did you not record it or did they stop you from releasing it? I think it could have improved your box office totals because I know I would have bought another ticket to see it with a commentary. Can’t wait for next week to hear the rest of the story.
December 15, 2008

azm

Welcome back, my favorite duo is back 🙂
December 15, 2008

Anthony

What happened to the ThingGeek intro?
December 15, 2008

zane

listening now, wow depressing. Hey guys you do NOT suck! fuck the numbers!
December 15, 2008

Eric

Opening that flick on Halloween killed it. The economy didn’t help.
December 15, 2008

chuck

Smmmmmmmmmmmmmmmoooooooooooooooodddddddddddddd!!!
December 15, 2008

Ducky Dale

Kevin DeBoyer, I hope to God you put your heart and soul into something one day and fail. Big epic fail. Divorce, foreclosure, repossession, 35 years in jail FAIL. Douche.
December 15, 2008

Peter J.

It’s good to hear that you’re takin’ everything in stride, Kev.

I’m going to a funeral today (family but not immediate family), so this helps to make today a lil’ less dark. Many thanks and high-fives to both Scott and yourself.

Peace.
December 15, 2008

E. Donk

Why are some people being douches about this? We’ve got SMod back, granted it’s not the greatest one ever, but it’s back, meaning there’s more to come. and if you’re really a fan of the guy, why not empathize with him, instead of telling him to quit bitching? you do realize that it’s shit like that that made him give up the internet, like he says in the cast. You wouldn’t tell your friend to just get over it if he came to you with his concerns, so when K. Smith reaches out via SModcast, take it for what it is and shut the fuck up about it because a real fan doesn’t berate his idol just because he didn’t give you what you wanted, Kevin DeBoyer. You’re just a tool trying to promote your own shitty cast.
December 15, 2008

joebroadway

Damn negros it’s about time!!! i thought you guys were dead. Saw the movie, it fuckin rocked. great to have smodcast back. Keep up the good work. Also just bought “Sold Out” DVD, fucking great.
December 15, 2008

sam

YES! thank you!
December 15, 2008

zane

actually i thought it was a compelling Smodcast.

however in the haze the story got lost, kev was on the verge of blaming someone (he who dropped the egg containing the hope particle) …was it the editor of the movie?
December 15, 2008

Bryan

I had to clean the front of my pants! A new SModcast caused a love explosion. Thanks guys!
December 15, 2008

JayBee

I loved all of KS movies and all of the Evening withs… (just watched Threevening last night)

I owe alot to Kevin. His movies actually got my ass in gear and I did something with my life. A movie about 22 year olds with dead end jobs can do that to a 22 year old with a dead end job.

That being said… and I really enjoyed Z&M, I think I would have loved it even more if it was included in the Viewaskewniverse.

even just a slight nod. Jay & Bob don’t have to come back, it just needs that feel. The interconnectiveness.

that aside, love those dick jokes… love ’em
December 15, 2008

Alan in Wis

They fixed the margins!!!

I think the release date played as much a part of the low box office as did the ‘make a porno’… But I agree that people wouldn’t know Rogan without a picture. I don’t think that counts as stupid, because who the fuck is he, some actor? Like I care… I know who he is now because he’s in this movie. DVD sales will be Kevin’s best to date…
December 15, 2008

niggz

i thought u guys would get at least 30 mil opening weekend, but this is a true dvd hit cuz of the name, no kiddies could peep it, on dvd it will be your greatest DVD EVER!!!!! Keep your heads UP!
December 15, 2008

Si UK

Sucks to hear Kev sounding so low (and high…)
This UK fan did the first matinee screening and didnt stop laughing for 5 minutes after the ‘frosting’ scene.
Well looking forward to the eventual and hopefull directors cut (which i feel it deserves!!!)
Buy the DVD?? f*ck it im gonna buy it twice!!!
December 15, 2008

PaPiTai

There you go F_ukers, will you please leave Scott and Kev alone now! Wait, I’ll be Kev for a sec…

Here ya go you bottom feeding internet trolls!

Now I’ll be Scott for a sec…

Hmmm, I feel like you guys are, my thing is, Oh! Lets go kill Ned down the street!

ENJOY!
December 15, 2008

Ken Derrick

I saw the movie in theatres twice cause I became a fan of his long after ‘Jersey Girl’, which meant my first Kevin Smith movie in theatres was ‘Clerks II’. And I still don’t care if the DVD will be awesome, watching it in theatres with no distractions, around a group of people who want to see it is too great of an experience to miss. Plus, I’m not gonna wait an extra four months to see a movie I’ve wanted to since it was announced.

Now as for those people who complain about Mr. Smith bitching on SModCast, I want you to take a step back and literally fuck yourself in the face. As if you have the ability to get over a disappointment so fucking quick. Which if you do, probably means whatever it was didn’t mean that much to you in the first place. I think it was smart of them to take some time off and regenerate enough so that they can laugh about it now. Just another reason I respect both of these guys.

Yeah, the Halloween release date was an odd choice but I did my part. It just sucks not a lot of other people did too.
December 15, 2008

Leonardo Leonardo

Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!! I was afraid it was over! My SMod withdrawals have been eased. Thank you Kev and Scott.
December 15, 2008

Ginny Muse

So when the new iphone update came out it gave me the ability to download your podcasts directly to my phone and having always been a HUGE fan of yours I was so excited that I could download one whenever I felt the need. But for some reason after waiting over a month for this new one it does not show under smodcasts in my iphones itunes. WTF? Someone help me lol??!?
December 15, 2008

Alan

Ahh, absence makes the heart grow fonder. My head almost exploded just now. Thanks a lot Kev and Scott. Downloading 68 right now.

And because I haven’t mentioned yet, I saw Zack and Miri twice. Really good flick and I can’t wait for the DVD.
December 15, 2008

Genevia Muse

I got it NVM. I got it to stream via quicktime on my browser! Kevin I havent got a chance to listen to your podcast yet but from everyones responses it looks like your pretty bummed that Zach and Miri didnt do so well. I know were just fans so what we post isnt really a big life changer to you. But I just wanted to let you know that my boyfriend was recently in a horrible accident where he fell off a cliff in our National Park 75 ft. He was in the hospital for over a month and I played him your smodcasts while he was unconscious for several weeks. I know medical science and the grace of god got him through but I like to think that your humor and brilliance at least kept him upbeat and when he finally woke up he listened to them all day. So you kept a good guy alive, thanks!!!
December 15, 2008

Kedzz

No thinkgeek promo at the start?
Did the sponsorship deal fall through or something?
December 15, 2008

Genevia Muse

http://www.lex18archives.com/watch?v=2248&list_mode=popular

There is the link. It happened a year ago today.
December 15, 2008

JP

I’m sorry to say I didn’t make it to the theater to see it until 12/3…but I’m SO glad I did.

I’m not sure when this was recorded, but it seems like you still made $35 million worldwide on a budget of $24M…that seems pretty acceptable to me!

I know it’s not what you were hoping for and I hate to hear the pain as you re-live the opening weekend and waiting for the numbers.

Maybe you should have called it Zack & Miri Make A High School Musical???

Just a thought! 🙂 (KIDDING!!!!!)
December 15, 2008

RoBear

The greatest Tom Brokaw by Mose
December 15, 2008

andrew m

For all of you curious, the box office numbers is the symptom not the disease. Two huge elements that determine a theatrically release movies success (financially) are Marketing and Distrubtion; two things that Kevin has absolutely no control over.

Kevin mentions bashing the studio on the mallrats dvd, he mentions Role Models and how well it did, being released just a week later. He acknowledges that his tastes aren’t always in mesh with everyone elses. But with this material, and this cast at this time, it would have done huge numbers. Kevin is taking the heat for someone elses fuck up.

The studio dropped the egg. Didn’t even get an omelet out of it, just some half-chick shriveled fetus.
December 15, 2008

Drew

Dude i know its not what you either wanted or expected, but the movie was fucking hillarious. I have not met a soul who has said an unkind word about the movie. Cut your losses but know you have made a hillarious porno epic!
December 15, 2008

Spiderfan

Kevin and Scott,
Regardless of whether you guys read this or not I feel it has to be said. The under-performance of Zack and Miri is heartbreaking and understandably so, especially given all the positive press praising the film.

You guys got to make the movie you wanted to make and despite people’s close minded shock and disregard of the movie’s suggested content, you guys stuck to your guns and made not only a funny movie but a moving one at that. How many people can say that?? How many of these armchair internet critics can say they have made the movie they wanted to make??

Zack and Miri was some of your best work to date and to me demonstrates not only how you have grown as a professional and a human being but shows how the people around you have grown as well. It was refreshing to see a healthy, mature Mewes rawkin the scenes with a memorable performance.

And you got to make the movie you wanted with the cast you wanted, a cast btw that was beyond awesome from Rogen and Banks to the vastly under-rated Tyler Labine (who should be a great big fucking star right now…kudos for giving him a role, however brief).

So despite the disappointment of the box office take just keep in mind that you have continued to impress me with each outing and with each Evening With and Smodcast. The movie itself is something to be proud of and something that should inspire you to keep growing.

And as a wise friend once told me “Don’t sweat the petty stuff, and don’t pet the sweaty stuff.”

Spiderfan
December 15, 2008

Keith

I saw the midnight showing and I brought along eight friends with me. Three days later I saw it again with four different friends. The movie was hilarious! Oh and thanks for the new smod
December 15, 2008

D-Day

Wow, Kevin was so blasted during this smod! Fuckin hilarious!
December 15, 2008

doitdoug2001

I don’t know about the rest of the world but this film wasn’t marketed for shit in England. Just some crummy (cheap looking) ads on the side of buses.

And while I thought the film was very very funny it was rough around the edges. Like it could’ve used a little more work (I would’ve dropped the stuff about Miri becoming a youtube star in ten minutes and I thought a little more resolution was needed at the end- though I admit I missed the post credits stuff: but then I shouldn’t have to see these to see how things wrap up).
December 15, 2008

doitdoug2001

Oh yeah- I noticed the lack of think geekness.
December 15, 2008

Jason

Yay! Mondays are good once again!
December 15, 2008

Mars

First ever post. Long ass post. “long ass post”… ha.

Look, I am fan, and I haven’t seen Zack and Miri. I’m broke, and I don’t have much time to see flicks these days. I know you were aiming for a wider audience than you normally pull. Honestly, when I saw trailers for Z and M, I thought, “Seth Rogen? He seems like kind of a douche bag.” His shit is funny, but kind of flavor of the month, and I think you might know it in your hearts at some dark place. You went with the flavor of the month, and it didn’t work out financially like you thought it might.

Keep this in mind; I saw Clerks when I was 12, and loved it and it mattered.

Saw the cover of Mallrats at the video store, and was like, “are those the fucking guys from Clerks?” I rented it, and when T.S. and whatever his girlfriend’s name is were talking about the girl dying mid-backstroke I was like, “Holy shit… it’s like a comic book universe! Shared continuity and crossovers and shit!”

I wached Chasing Amy when it came out, and loved it. Best movie you ever made, and you know it.

I liked Dogma. It was a great concept, and I have probably heard more people talk about it than anything else you’ve done.

Jay and Silent Bob was the equivilent of the comic book super summer crossover type film. “Crisis of Infinite View Askew” type event. Silent Bob was a flick for your fans, and you delivered all the shit we’d expect and more.

Jersey Girl was actually your third best film after Amy and Clerks. Despite all the bullshit that went along with it, I bet you guys know Jersey Girl was really good.

Clerks 2 came out. It was a busy time in my life, and I didn’t make it to the theater to see it. Bought the DVD and have watched it several times since. It was great to see the guys again, and it was like a trip to the old universe that I thought we all might not have an opportunity to take ever again.

All the way forward to Zack and Miri; Take this from a dude who took the time to sit and write all this bullshit down… I didn’t make it to the theater to see the movie. I will buy the DVD, and we’ll see what we see… but please understand that money is money, box office is box office… but when you have people who care enough to watch your shit and tell you that it mattered to them, that’s something different. The stuff you make, Q&A’s, Smod, all of it… it matters to me and hopefully that matters to you more than your payoff.

Now, make a movie without gay ass Seth Rogen, and make it small enough to be less stressful, and make it matter to your soul. It will matter to us too.
December 15, 2008

Zer00

I’ll go and say since Kevin is the editor he wasn’t going on to blame himself.

He was more than likely going on to blame the marketing department, since considering the movie seems to be nearly universally good and not have a niche audience and was the PERFECT time for it to be released(not delease date but state of R rated comedies) then he meant the marketing. Even though the stick figures were his idea. But really the marketing started SO late in the game I’m sure that maybe that’s what he was referring to. Between the release date and lack of decent marketing, it’s the only reason that makes sense. Even if Rogen had suddenly become unbankable the movie wouldn’t have taken that much of a plunge, there’s usual a gradual fall over a few movies.

All in all this episode wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. I was kind of dreading it since I thought it might be a lot of finger pointing and “why God why!?” but it wasn’t. It was realistic. I could have done without Kevin being high(now don’t call me a “hater” your favorite new word, you guys) but hey can’t complain this time, a free bitch o meter pass from me.

I can’t blame the people who don’t really like this episode…is a tad depressing since I think we all thought it would do kind of awesome because of Rogen. I think it would be different if the last episode wasn’t so “weak” or kind of the same as this, so it feels like the last normal episode of Smod was Sleipner The Conquerer(best ever dare I say) but I’m just so glad to have it back. I’m going to go masturbate violently to it.

Anyway that’s my two cents.
December 15, 2008

Harry Scotter

nobody wanted to see zack and miri with me because it had porno in the title. they all did a ‘ew’ face and decided to watch a crappy animation sequel. z&m was great fun but the title fucked it big time. another lesson learned for kev i guess.

hopefully red state will do clerks 2 business and kev & scott can put this behind them.

someone told me that a director reliant on jay and silent bob should always include jay and silent bob in his films.

yay or nay?

/end
December 15, 2008

rob?

this made my month!

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