Comments on: Masters Of Song Fu #4: Round 1 Challenge Voting Begins! http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/ Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:14:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: A. Weishaupt http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18440 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:14:13 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18440 Re: Celestial Objects

The rule is vague enough that you all have broken it.

Isn’t Earth itself a celestial object? So, a rock being a direct part of our planet is somehow exempt? What about any object that is made of atoms directly from or around said planet/star/quark/nebula/comet? That might include… what.. everything on it?

Sorry to have brought this to light. You are all disqualified. 😉

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By: Duduong http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18328 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:06:09 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18328 Hey Red Head Girl- great singing and nice guitar playing! We enjoy listening to you singing… good harmony too.
-M&J in Westport,CT

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By: Lex Vader http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18292 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:29:20 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18292 The more I think about it, the more I think the worst offense was to write from the perspective of an object about a PERSON. That inherently makes the person the subject, not the object.

@perfectplace, frankly, I do think an acoustic song about an envelope is pretty unmemorable. I guess a clever title worked for you in the end, but it makes more sense to remind people of the lyrics. Who needs Morrissey’s book-length song titles when it’s hard enough to remember which one “Suedehead” is?

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By: Rod Durre http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18291 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:42:49 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18291 @The Perfect Place. “A Bad Penny” is written from the perspective of a penny which has been saved (with a group of other pennies) until devaluation has caused it to be worth less than the metal it’s made from. Just as one member of a group can bemoan the injustice his/her group has suffered, this penny is speaking for all of pennykind ; ) (“You saved us and cursed us, and now we’re nearly worthless”; “We were the lifeblood of this nation”, etc)

Thanks for the kind words, Bud!

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By: The Perfect Place (Bud) http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18287 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:35:54 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18287 @angela: ahh, that makes sense then. ;-D

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By: Angelastic http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18283 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:36:29 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18283 @Bud: I downloaded them and listened to them in random order, several times over a few days. The mp3 has the full title, it’s only the Song Fu page that doesn’t have it.

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By: Caleb H http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18274 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:34:22 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18274 Update – I made my first blog post tonight. Hello World!

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By: Caleb H http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18271 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:21:22 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18271 @Russ:
I think this is a bit like the chicken and the egg. I have no where to send people, but no one to send there if I did. Now that I’ve gotten one, I guess I’ll have to fill in the other :-). It’s funny, because I was considering spending this summer either focusing on music or on internet presence. I chose music as the more constructive activity, not realizing that it would lead to the other!

I didn’t bother to mention these when I signed up because they are basically empty shells, but see below.

My Youtube channel, but there’s very little here, and nothing Song Fu related (yet):
http://www.youtube.com/user/cph9fa

My totally empty “blog” — I’ve *never ever* posted here (yet):
http://refactoringmybrain.blogspot.com/

You can also find me talking over on the JoCo Forums.
http://www.jonathancoulton.com/forums/

To Do List:
– Actually write a post or two on the blog.
– Put up Song Fu entries on youtube (and other stuff).
– Get a “Facebook” thingy??
– Get a “Twitter” thingy??
– Link them all together, and then get Ken to add a link to them from my bio.

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By: The Perfect Place (Bud) http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18270 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:55:07 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18270 retraction! upon further review of the lyrics, i now realize why i made the mistake of judging ‘bad penny’ as not being from the perspective of the object – the subject was plural. so basically, i am to understand that this song is being sung by a group of pennies clamoring for attention and decrying human mistreatment…

wow, that’s even more clever than i thought. ;-D cheers, poodlz!

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By: The Perfect Place (Bud) http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18268 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:50:21 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18268 @angel: while i understand what you mean [and continue to disagree], wasn’t our song 2nd to last on the playlist? was it that unmemorable that you forgot it after just one other song? ;-P besides, the only way you’d have known the full title is if you read the lyrics, so methinks you just don’t care for the title. which is totally fine. still looking forward to what you think of the song. but i digress.

@lex: i didn’t think about the bomb being disqualified because it was a bit of a technological advancement containing moving parts and all. i think your rationalization of it is good and i don’t think i’d consider it an offender. ;-P however, some of the songs definitely didn’t follow the challenge rules, as they are merely songs about an inanimate object whereas the challenge was to write a song from the perspective of said object. sadly, i would say that [while i absolutely love the song], the bad penny song is the worst offender in that respect. ;-P

still, i wouldn’t get hung up on rules and regulations, as it’s all in the name of fun and creativity. ;-D

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By: Russ Rogers http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18265 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:57:15 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18265 @Jalepeno Habeneros and @The Gremlins, You also NEED some kind of Internet presence outside the pages of Song Fu. What I said about Caleb and Travis also goes for you guys too!

Having more kinds of Web Presence is almost like signing your name to your work here. It lends an air of authority and credibility. It makes you more “real” if you make your virtual selves more accessible.

I’m considering building a separate MySpace presence for GöDZ PööDLZ. I’m convincing myself that it’s important.

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By: Travis Norris http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18264 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:08:13 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18264 @Russ: Haha, thanks for the encouragement. I should have the Myspace/Facebook/Twitter/Sign on the highway (okay maybe not that last one) ball rolling by the time voting opens for next round.

I used to have a music site, many years ago (anybody remember IUMA? ….no?) and the main reason I haven’t made one since is because I’ve been a part writer/hired gun guitarist/lazy bum ever since, and haven’t written and recorded anything I was comfortable submitting to the public. Joining this contest was sort of a way to break that spell. But anyway, thanks for reminding me, and it’ll be done soon. 🙂

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By: Russ Rogers http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18262 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:40:55 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18262 @Lex, Nice summation. You are allowed (maybe even supposed) to be completely biased. And I agree, this was one of the best Song Fu Rounds on record.

@Denise, Very classy and insightful ten word reviews. Way to go!

@Travis, @Misterovich and @Jutze, thanks also for your critiques. I tried to do this several days ago, and my daughter switched off the power-strip on my computer after two and a half hours. I was so profoundly upset by that, I just couldn’t return to the task. Maybe next round. Anyone really curious about my detailed take on their song is welcome to contact me directly. I love to kibitz.

@Berg and @Caleb Lee, your mature, polite and patient handling of the Voting Kerfuffle reflects well on you both. The same can be said for @BHBobby, you deftly and humorously deflated and put to rest the whole “original song” tizzy. Thanks.

@Caleb Hines and @Travis Norris, you guys at the very least NEED a MySpace, YouTube and/or twitter account. They are FREE! It physically pains me that you aren’t building a fan following on the Internet some place outside of Song Fu. I want to be in your social network. I want to be your fan! I just don’t know where to go and sign up!

I’m really pleased that this round got more than 200 comments and that even with minor disputes, the vast majority of them are respectful, positive, friendly and constructive! Seriously, I learned stuff about my song (ways to make it better) that hadn’t occurred to me. Thanks to everyone who mentioned “Bad Penny,” whether you liked it, didn’t like it or just couldn’t get it out of your head. I appreciate anyone taking the time to thoughtfully listen, comment and/or vote. It feels good to be noticed.

Finally, thanks again to the other Godz Poodl, Rod Durre. Working with a friend has made this Song Fu exponentially more fun.

Hopefully we’ll see you all in Song Fu #4, Round 2. Rock on!

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By: Angelastic http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18258 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:42:36 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18258 @Bud: I don’t forget the title, but I forget the song… so when I’m looking at the voting form, I see it and think, ‘what was that about again?’ instead of ‘Oh, that’s the song about the _____, I liked that one!’ so I couldn’t vote for it. But plenty of other people did, so good for you.

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By: Lex Vader http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18253 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:41:14 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18253 SONG FU 4 ROUND 1 in review

About the moving parts thing: the bomb, I’d say, was the worst offender. I think the purpose of this rule is to have a truly INANIMATE object. One that doesn’t really DO much. I.E. no robots. Because you could come up with a lot of machines that are easy to write about. I mean, so what if a diary has a clasp or a lock. I don’t think that was the point of the moving parts rule. Pants have a zipper. An ebow has a switch. A guitar stand is adjustable. A raincoat can transform into a car. I don’t think “moving” means “moveable.” Maybe it means “emotionally stirring,” in which case we all fail. But even as far as the bomb goes, I think it depends on the bomb. If you ask me, it kind of fits, because in every movie where there’s an unexploded bomb, the whole point is that it’s sitting there doing absolutely nothing. Also, I don’t think it matters unless the rule-breaking songs somehow manage to be so great that they all get the top votes. Breaking the rules isn’t “cheating” if it doesn’t help you win. There’s always some unintentional rule breaking going on.

I’ve listened to every Song Fu edition, and this round was probably the best. Because I was in it. *dead stare* Okay, not really. It was a good challenge itself. 1-1 (TV theme) was self indulgent. 1-2 (2-column repeating syllable) was completely off the wall. 1-3 (space oddity) was brilliant, but only two people did it. 2-1 (the moon) was so blah that there was a rule against doing it again this round. 2-2 (inventor dance) was obscure and anachronistic. 2-3 (rufus country ballad) was too restrictive. 2-4 (john williams pop theme) brilliant again, but two entries again. Holiday Special was okay unless you hate Christmas. 3-1 (happy song) turned out a few clichés. 3-2 (10 words) again, pretty restrictive. 3-3 (makes sense title) I’m undecided. 3-4 (multi-part song) was hard but good (that’s what she said), but hardly any shadowers. 4-1 was specific enough that it gave you ideas and kept all the entries similar, but with enough leeway that you had a lot of creative freedom.

Or maybe I’m COMPLETELY biased. I just think “write about an object” was the best challenge as far as allowing great songs. We’re still in novelty song territory for the most part, but more of them were great this round than in the majority of past editions. Caleblee’s is great if you like that genre (I don’t). I think if Ian & Melissa’s song never existed, I would have felt hollow, become depressed for no explicable reason, and over time wasted away into nothing. So, Ken Plume, you saved a life!

Let’s just say I would have HATED to do the edition the Rifftones did. Those challenges made me fill my pants, except for the final challenge. I probably could have managed, but… well, I’ll shut up now in case the next challenge makes me wish I had hair to pull out. Such is the risk we take.

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By: Philip Masters http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18244 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:20:32 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18244 Lets see if I can lay this to rest…I am a member of a huge app game on myspace called Vampires. I am also a leader of a Clan called The Blood Masters…I sent almost everyone of my vampire clan members to listen to everyone’s music and I am a Caleb Lee devoted fan…but I will tell you more than 100 of my clan members listened to others music and voted for many of the other talented artist’s music on this round. I have listened to each and everyone’s music..and truthfully…its very hard to decide to vote for. Everyone that put there time and effort on this competition are already winners to me! So much talent in these people…I say congrats to everyone that worked there rear ends off to make such beautiful, exciting, and entertaining music for us to listen too. Thank you for the great tunes everyone…your all winners to me!

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By: Twookie http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18242 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:07:48 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18242 This has been an intense first round. The songs are all great. Really hard to choose only five.
Many of the disgruntled sound more frustrated with the system than anything.
You all did a fantastic job. How am I gonna choose??

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By: BucketHatBobby http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18241 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:59:24 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18241 I wasn’t going to say anything about this, because I didn’t want it to seem like I was making excuses, but since PatMisterovich mentioned my “Not exactly melodic” singing, I think I have to say something.
I don’t know what I had, but I was very sick during the recording of this song. when I recorded the bass, it wasn’t that bad, because you couldn’t hear me sniffing/coughing, as it was plugged in. The further I worked into the night, the more my medication kicked in, until 20 minutes before deadline, I sent the song to a friend of mine over MSN who responded the following:

AdamLeMoine Says:
during the chorus you should put some chords in

Bobby M Says:
the bridge?

AdamLeMoine Says:
i dunno what to call it. i suck with music
know what would sound cool
something like
spanish guitar
going
DUN DUN DUN DUN
like in a skaish sounding way
man. i have no clue what i’m saying. you deff hate me right now for not making sense

AND SO, a guitar part was written and added… why it is out of tune is beyond me… probably due to my intense amounts of medication and the fact that I recorded it, added it, and sent it away in 10 minutes.
My voice was so messed up that whole weekend.

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By: The Perfect Place (Bud) http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18239 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:46:14 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18239 @angelariaaaaa show me yourself: appearing hip and clever is more important to me than people remembering anything about our music. actually, your comments have proven the point of the title. you will most likely not forget the title now that you’ve taken the time to analyze it. love it or hate it, the title is quite true if you take a look at some of the song titles being thrown around by popular ‘alternative’ artists.

but if you don’t get the title, it’s not for you. ;-D judge the song for itself, that’d be more productive for us!

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By: Kymm http://asitecalledfred.com/2009/05/25/song-fu-4-round-1-voting/comment-page-5/#comment-18237 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:35:24 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=10302#comment-18237 Wait, yes I can, hooray!

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