Also, no one leaked it to the press (neither Dean nor Boone). Butz’s quote was overheard by a reporter who was sitting behind him.

Finally, Kevin’s outrage over the term “colored” is somewhat misplaced. This was the early ’70s and that was the generally accepted term for African Americans at the time. The racial term timeline essentially flows like this:

Slavery to the 1950s: Negroes
1950s to early 1970s: Colored
Late 1960s: Black
Mid-1970s: Afro-American and/or Black
Late 1970s to early 1990s: Black
Mid-1990s to today: African American and/or Black

So, the reportage of that particular term shouldn’t be too shocking to the system, Kev.

Anyway, rock on.

And in my opinion, Coke with real sugar is so much better. It is less sweet, but has the refreshing taste that you lose to sticky sweetness of corn syrup. I highly recommend it to everyone!

You inadvertently pushed that old right-wing myth about Lincoln being in the Republican party. It’s true that Lincoln was a Republican, but the Republican party of his day was more like the Democrats of today. They were liberal. This statement is made to mislead people into thinking that Lincoln’s politics were more in line with the conservative Republicans of today, but they were not. Seriously, does it make any sense that a *conservative* party would want freedom for slaves mandated from the federal government? That runs counter to everything conservatives believe (or claim to.)

This is like that old myth about how more Republicans than Democrats supported civil rights in the 50s and 60s. That’s true. There *were* a lot of racists in the Democratic party in the 50s and 60s, but those anti-civil rights Democrats got tired of the infighting over civil rights and broke away to form the Dixiecrats (led by Strom Thurmond) the members of which eventually joined up with the modern-day Republicans.

Please do your best not to pass along any of these right-wing revisionist versions of history, even if it comes from a relatively innocuous source like Pat Boone. I would like to think that Abraham Lincoln would have nothing to do with the corrupt bastards in the Republican party of today.

– Johnny

The real lesson of this is that it’s not ANYONE’S right to “label” people gay or straight, whether they’re kids or adults. I knew I was gay before I’d held a dick that wasn’t mine. Just like you knew you were straight before you’d had a lick of strange. “Curiosity” is the term for being potentially interested but not having yet acted – being definitively interested in the same sex means you are gay. “Leaning” is what you do on a fence or a brick wall, just like “Oriental” is a rug. Time to rid yourself of these old-ass terms, Kevin.

Again, it’s not your place to tell people whether they’re gay, straight, bi, or transsexual.

Truth is I couldn’t tell you if it was a choice or my nature but I have a great life as a fag, so given the choice – fuck yea 🙂

Unrelated-ly: at least other people are sharing my manic desire to find and love of that Matt Berry track. I did exactly the same as Bryce above.

Disagree with the analogy that thoughts of killing some one or harboring violent thoughts is akin to thinking gay thoughts and whether one is gay
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basically you it sounds as if you are saying gay is taboo or immoral. I know this isn’t your intention but it sounds that way from the comparison.

Gay is the preference of a relationship of those of same sex over the opposite sex. It is not a description of acts committed as the term killer is. Mosier gets it right with the homicidal description of those that face violent temptations but do not act. Are you gay if you have gay thoughts? Gay in my mind is defined by oneself. Its fluid like racial identity.