Comments on: Comics in Context #220: The King of the Silver Age http://asitecalledfred.com/2008/03/31/comics-in-context-220-the-king-of-the-silver-age/ Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:58:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: rodan57 http://asitecalledfred.com/2008/03/31/comics-in-context-220-the-king-of-the-silver-age/comment-page-1/#comment-22918 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:58:35 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/2008/03/31/comics-in-context-220-the-king-of-the-silver-age/#comment-22918 t just that Lee changed the way Spider-Man was drawn; he also tossed out the original concept of who Spider-Man was. In the revised origin story that Ditko drew, Spider-Man was no longer a small boy but a high school student, there was no magic ring, and he did not transform into an adult but was an adolescent superhero." He may have tossed out the Kirby version only to replace it with the Rawhide Kid origin from issue #17 -- and who knows how much Kirby contributed to that issue.]]> “Moreover, it wasn’t just that Lee changed the way Spider-Man was drawn; he also tossed out the original concept of who Spider-Man was. In the revised origin story that Ditko drew, Spider-Man was no longer a small boy but a high school student, there was no magic ring, and he did not transform into an adult but was an adolescent superhero.”

He may have tossed out the Kirby version only to replace it with the Rawhide Kid origin from issue #17 — and who knows how much Kirby contributed to that issue.

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By: Peter b. gillis http://asitecalledfred.com/2008/03/31/comics-in-context-220-the-king-of-the-silver-age/comment-page-1/#comment-3483 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:40:10 +0000 http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/2008/03/31/comics-in-context-220-the-king-of-the-silver-age/#comment-3483 Three things: 1) When First Comics started up, they used terminology that cleared things up by using the term ‘designer’. Thus on my Black Flame strip that nobody remembers, Tom Sutton (an amazing talent) was credited as the designer of the strip. The concept was mine pretty much start to finish, as were the characters–except for the way they looked and the way the world looked.
This doesn’t, of course, solve the question of who was a ‘creator’ and who wasn’t–but crediting the role of designer would go a long way to making the issues clearer.
2) Let’s remember that Stan had instituted credits at Marvel, which was definitely not the case at DC (I wondered at the time how letter writers to DC could talk about ‘Carmine Infantino’ or ‘Gil Kane’, whom I’d never heard of.) I don’t want to presume too much, but that was a major shift in the business, and Stan probably got a lot of goodwill from that.
3) I just have to pass along Roger Stern’s Great Untold Daredevil Moments, of how Daredevil appears in his yellow and black costume and says “How do you like my costume? Doesn’t its red color remind you of the devil?” It may have been told before, but your mention made me think of it.

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